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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) KCVelaga ( talk) 23:26, 16 September 2018 (UTC) reply

Michael Marin

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Fails WP:GNG, uses only two sources, violates WP:BLP1E and WP:NOTNEWS. THE DIAZ ^{userpage • talk • contribs} 03:12, 10 September 2018 (UTC) reply

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• Question for nominator @ The Diaz: The previous AfD closed as Keep with a suggestion to move the page to Suicide of Michael Marin as an alternative to deletion. Do you object to that move proposal? Bakazaka ( talk) 20:28, 10 September 2018 (UTC) reply

@ Bakazaka: Yes. Its lack of sources would fail WP:GNG and violate WP:NOTNEWS. THE DIAZ ^{userpage • talk • contribs} 00:44, 11 September 2018 (UTC) reply

• Delete Reads like an obituary, fails 1Event. Reywas92 ^Talk 23:11, 10 September 2018 (UTC) reply
• Delete per Reywas92. Individual and event of his death seems completely unremarkable and uninteresting. There is insufficient WP:RS in the lengthy article. However, I did find more WP:RS, here. If there is more WP:RS from independent sources that make this person seem worth having an article about, I might reconsider my !vote. -- David Tornheim ( talk) 00:37, 11 September 2018 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per previous AfD here. I do see he is highlighted this book. The article definitely needs to include some of the these resources and focus on what the WP:RS says about him rather than the long rambling mostly unsourced narrative that indeed sounds more like an Obit. Cullen328 included some important WP:RS there that changed my mind. It's unfortunate that the WP:RS has not been used since then. -- David Tornheim ( talk) 00:53, 11 September 2018 (UTC) reply
• Keep. Satisfies GNG. There are more sources besides the two in the article. There is a lot of coverage in GNews: [1] [2] [3]. 1E is not on the face of it a factor, as sources cover his whole life in detail. Even if it was a factor, the only result would be a page move to the event. NOTNEWS is not on the face of it a factor, because sources deal with events in his life several decades before the sources were published ("news" must be very recent). "Reads like an obituary" is not a grounds for deletion. It is difficult to see how BLP can apply to someone who died six years ago. James500 ( talk) 02:52, 15 September 2018 (UTC) reply

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