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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 04:10, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
Mental projection
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This article has been a stub since it's creation. Google searches on the subject are circular back to this page. The one reference (Powell, 1927) makes NO mention of mental projection (text here: [1] ). The mental plane subject is fully covered in its own article, and although the original author claims that this and astral projection are different, there is simply no corroborating sourcing or evidence to that effect. I also considered a redirect to the mental plane article , but again no good evidence that the subject is actually related.
I have considered a bold redirect to astral projection, and also to the mental plane but a lack of any evidence that the term is even used in anything that is not WP:FRINGE yields no hits. It does get mention on Youtube but this may well be because the article is here, being presented in wikivoice. It does not appear to be described in any WP:RS. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 13:40, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
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Psychology.
Sirfurboy🏄 (
talk) 13:40, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Pinging user:Dchmelik as original author to alert to this discussion, and User:Phlegm Rooster as a previous contributor on the talk page. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 13:44, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Please note in research that the article for deletion is "mental projection" as described in the article (projection of the consciousness on the mental plane). Plenty of sources talk about mental projection as something one does as a psychological construction of the mind. E.g. "That in its turn requires us to see, by mental projection, what the infinity of the universe really means." Such intellectual projection does not itself need an article as it is merely describing a mechanism of mental extrapolation from data to the unseen. In any case, that is not what this article is about. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 14:03, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, as it seems to be a one off idea. Slatersteven ( talk) 14:46, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete or, alternatively, Redirect to astral projection and I imagine that psychological projection is not what most readers are looking for when they search for this topic. jps ( talk) 16:02, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per lack of reliable sources. Psychologist Guy ( talk) 16:23, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Disambiguate and add other definition(s) jps and/or Sirfurboy described (not bad topics) or keep or redirect to mental plane or astral projection (the former is more related but latter is different in those theories). Sources/people discussing such planes and astral projection discuss this concept but may be hard to find, but I won't necessarily be looking because no longer think there's more than one plane.-- dchmelik☀️🕉︎☉🦉🐝🐍☤☆( talk 10:07, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:49, 21 August 2022 (UTC)- I am a bit surprised this needs a relist when I, the nom plus three other editors argued for delete and only the page creator argued for “disambiguate” which is not really an AFD outcome. I don’t know what to add to this other than that the topic as written clearly does not meet WP:N. The page creator does go on to suggest a redirect to astral projection, but I don’t think that fits as this is ‘’apparently’’ only a term found in theosophy - and even in theosophy it gets no mention on the theosophy wiki nor in any writings I found. All links are sourced from here. To be clear then, the existence of this page is causing Wikipedia to posit WP:OR about a concept of mental projection, and even a redirect will do the same as it will associate mental projection with astral projection - which is novel usage unique to Wikipedia and articles sourced from here. The page needs deleting. Sirfurboy🏄 ( talk) 08:49, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
- Delete for lack of references demonstrating that this is an encyclopedic topic. Nor is the title a well-established alternative term for something known by another name. XOR'easter ( talk) 14:45, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
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