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The result was keep‎. RL0919 ( talk) 16:58, 23 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Meitiv incidents

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I'm proposing we delete this. The last time this was discussed was 8 years ago, and at that time there was no consensus. But I don't see where there's sustained notability for this topic appropriate for an article. Rockstone Send me a message! 03:47, 2 August 2023 (UTC) reply

  • merge to free range parenting, very selectively. Really the only sentence from this that needs to be added to the target is the one about establishing state policy. The article as it stands is yet another argument for not writing articles immediately so we can find out if the topic has any staying power. This oen did not, as there is almost nothing about it after the event occurred. Mangoe ( talk) 04:48, 2 August 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. Seems to have become a case study amongst academics, thereby meeting WP:PERSISTENCE / WP:EVENT. This is a non-exhaustive search to demonstrate how commonly this case is covered.
    1. Academic book from 2019 (4 years after) with SIGCOV [1]
    2. Journal article from 2017, a couple years after the incidents with about 700 words of SIGCOV, (Wiley journal via TWL, [2]
    3. Journal from early 2016 with ~260 words, about 8 months after last incident. [3]
    4. Law review journal article from 2016, more than a year after the incidents with a few hundred words (via TWL) [4]
    5. Law journal article from 2018 (~3 years after) with some SIGCOV (via TWL) [5]
— siro χ o 09:08, 2 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:12, 9 August 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Keep per Siroxo, and I do not think that a merge to Free Range Parenting is appropriate. The article is not great, but neither is it uninformative, misleading nor NN, and there is significant room to grow it. This is notable as a case in and of itself (or, technically, set of cases/themselves), not simply as an instance of FRP. For example, the actions of the local protective services may be as significant a case study as the purported neglect they so zealously and destructively pursued. The legal waffling of the various governments both adds notability and presents another dimension in which to enhance the article. It's sad that it has been left to languish, but that seems a poor reason to delete it. Cheers, Last1in ( talk) 01:31, 13 August 2023 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: This should have been mentioned in nomination statement but the previous AFD was Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Meitiv family.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:07, 16 August 2023 (UTC) reply

  • Keep Per rationales given above, this is a very notable and famous incident. ★Trekker ( talk) 19:24, 17 August 2023 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Per sources listed above by Siroxo, subject passes WP:EVENT and WP:GNG. Sal2100 ( talk) 19:10, 18 August 2023 (UTC) reply
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