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The result was no consensus. Minimal participation after several relists, and the one new post-relist commenter added little to the discussion. RL0919 ( talk) 10:09, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
May 2023 Mayo shelling
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I don't think there is enough coverage (see WP:SIGCOV and WP:EVENTCRITERIA) to warrant an article and not just a paragraph at Mayo, Khartoum and Battle of Khartoum (2023) (which already exists). We just merged Battle of Omdurman (2023), which had relatively more coverage than this, see Talk:Battle of Khartoum (2023)#Proposed merge of Battle of Omdurman (2023) into Battle of Khartoum (2023) FuzzyMagma ( talk) 13:56, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. FuzzyMagma ( talk) 13:56, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Military and Sudan. Shellwood ( talk) 16:11, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose. The shelling at Mayo was, at the time, the largest single-event death toll since the war began, and several articles mention it as an independent incident within the battle of Khartoum instead of a footnote like other shellings throughout Omdurman and Khartoum.
This al-Youm article,
this Daily Sabah article, and the Guardian report cited in the article all heavily discuss the shelling.
Jebiguess (
talk) 04:21, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- maybe it is worth it to have a look at WP:EVENTCRITERIA, as this single event does not meet any of the criteria related to notability, first for not receiving coverage beyond a relatively short news cycle ( WP:CASESTUDY) and the event did not receive significant or in-depth coverage to be notable ( WP:DEPTH.
- Btw there were a shelling in Mandela the same day, another in
Kalakla on 24 April 2023, around Yarmouk munitions factory, and
many hospitals were also shelled. Saying it is the "
the largest single-event death toll since the war began
" is a bit of a stretch as up to date there is now official death toll and the estimate death for the event is between 17 to 18 or maybe 27, and just on the 3 Sep 2023, 20 were killed in air raid South of Khartoum, At least 51 people were killed by an SAF airstrike on the Gouro market in Khartoum, 32' people were killed by SAF shelling in Ombada, Omdurman, At least 45 people were killed by SAF airstrikes in Nyala, 30 people were killed during clashes between the SAF and the RSF in El Fasher and 25 people were killed in fighting in Omdurman. all just in September FuzzyMagma ( talk) 09:40, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:45, 8 October 2023 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — TechnoSquirrel69 ( sigh) 18:09, 15 October 2023 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel ( talk) 10:04, 23 October 2023 (UTC)- KEEP- per Jebiguess
PaulGamerBoy360 (
talk) 18:52, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- I just refuted all of Jebiguess arguments. So please clear why you think their argument still valid when I pointed out its problems especially the existence of similar one events. Please cite a policy to your argument
- Wikipedia is not democracy btw and these AfD are considered debates so you cannot just upheld a refuted vote without explanation FuzzyMagma ( talk) 18:59, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- KEEP- per Jebiguess
PaulGamerBoy360 (
talk) 18:52, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
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