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The result was keep. Consensus appears to have formed that subject meets
WP:GNGGoPhightins! 11:26, 18 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep As per Rogermx, Seems to pass
WP:GNG with articles on reliable indepenent publications such as
[1],
[2],
[3] and upon searching more seems to have a wide coverage in Spanish such as
[4],
[5].
Hulatam (
talk) 17:48, 7 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Blocked for UPE.
MER-C 13:54, 9 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Your first two links are press releases, the WSJ link is just the short generic CEO profile that is part of Millicom's stock research. The spanish language links aren't covearge either - one is just a quote, and the other is a press release (or a churned press release) again.
MrOllie (
talk) 01:08, 8 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi, MrOllie! Yes, I agree that there are some PR listings. But, as also mentioned above by Rogermx there are definitely many other sources too which gives him a pass for
WP:GNG like some of these below refs I just found google search.
Merge this paid-for puff piece to
Millicom, since this CEO is not notable independent of the company. Sources are largely press releases, churnalism or from outfits that 'profile' CEOs indiscriminately. -
MrOllie (
talk) 00:47, 8 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep Ramos is the CEO of
Millicom, a highly notable multinational company with many household brands in various countries. In general, CEOs of major companies like this are notable enough to have their own articles, so rewriting rather than merging would typically be the best choice. Other than the mention about the 3 recognitions which can be removed or fixed later, I don't see how the rest of the article is a puff piece as it just mentions the basic facts in a neutral way. There are enough reliable sources online to back up this biography, so some of the press release references can eventually be replaced with better sources later on. Overall, fits into the scope of an online encyclopedia.
Ambrosiawater (
talk) 19:18, 8 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Weak Keep Whether it was created in COI or not, the fact can't be denied as this person has coverage in some major publications.
Sliekid (
talk) 16:44, 9 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Delete Of the first 8 references, 6 are profiles, 1 is an annoucement of being a new ceo, and 1 is a best place to work in, for the company. There is no
WP:SECONDARY sources in the article that can satisfy a
WP:BLP, for
WP:BIO and
WP:SIGCOV. The other 8 references are company references. Nothing to do with man at all. There is not real coverage outwith the company. There is several annoucement of the new position, but nothing else. Fails
WP:SIGCOV. The Yahoo is an annoucement to a new position, the CNN reference is a press-release, the WSJ is a paid-for profile. There is really not that much on. Lots of standard notices of employement, company news and press-releases. scope_creepTalk 19:49, 9 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Weak Keep He appears notable but the page needs better citations. CEO of a significant company with some notable coverage. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Miaminsurance (
talk •
contribs) 01:46, 11 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Hi, MER-C! I want to clearly disclose my COI if you think I have any. I am not connected to the subject in any way. Nor, someone is paying me for doing edits on Wikipedia. When I was in Spain I was using their network. So, just searched about company and CEO. I used to see his page. But one day I saw that it is redirected I just removed the redirect nothing else. I don't think it is wrong as he is a notable and popular guy. Most of people were searching about him like people search for who is CEO of Microsoft, Apple etc. I hope you understand. You said sources to show, they are already been shown and added to the page. I guess all these are big websites and should be eligible to make a person appear on Wikipedia.
This is another collection of interviews about his company, quotes, and trivial mentions. All we seem to have here are a few rewritten press releases about how he took over as CEO of Millicom, and interviews where he talks about Millicom or the industry. I don't see much of anything outside of his role at Millicom. So why wouldn't we just merge to
Millicom? -
MrOllie (
talk) 18:43, 15 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Also, Another thing to note if you will see same another qualifications CEO
/info/en/?search=Jos%C3%A9_Mar%C3%ADa_%C3%81lvarez-Pallete You will see he have last coverage then Ramos. He only has coverage in Spanish. But Ramos has coverage in Spanish and English both. I guess he deserves a separate page for him. I hope you understand.
Sugarikon (
talk) 19:21, 15 March 2021 (UTC)reply
Sugarikon, we don't count pageviews for AfD, but anyway: most of the traffic to this article started because of this AfD, not before.
MarioGom (
talk) 08:51, 16 March 2021 (UTC)reply
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