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The result was delete. Jujutacular ( talk) 18:03, 14 August 2016 (UTC) reply

Marton Kovacs

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Apparently non notable author and advisor. DGG ( talk ) 04:39, 6 August 2016 (UTC) reply

• Delete -- non notable author and coverage is insufficient. K.e.coffman ( talk) 18:36, 6 August 2016 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. North America ¹⁰⁰⁰ 20:52, 6 August 2016 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. North America ¹⁰⁰⁰ 20:52, 6 August 2016 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Europe-related deletion discussions. North America ¹⁰⁰⁰ 20:52, 6 August 2016 (UTC) reply

• Delete non-notable writer. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 00:46, 8 August 2016 (UTC) reply

• DO NOT DELETE. Author and book are relevant in Europe. Kovacs's book (How to run the European Parliament by Marilyn Political) has been a bestseller in several European countries (see Amazon rankings). The author's book "How to run the European Parliament" is mandatory reading in European studies in several European universities. Kovacs advises several Members of the European Parliament and avoids publicity. This Wikipedia entry is the best and one of the few sources where information about Kovacs can be obtained. Instead of deleting, wikipedia authors (maybe from Europe?) should provide more information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.208.50.49 ( talk) 20:57, 11 August 2016 (UTC) reply

This is not applicable to how Wikipedia actually works, however. SwisterTwister talk 05:38, 12 August 2016 (UTC) reply

• Comment -- the subject's books appear to be self-published by CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform. He's a consultant and I don't think yet notable. Sample article by the subject: " 7 Dumb Things First Time MEPs do". So a typical business person engaging in self-promotion, it appears: "Marton Kovacs is the author of “How to Run the European Parliament” (CreateSpace, 2015) and founder of Marilyn Political, a consulting company advising political leaders.". K.e.coffman ( talk) 05:08, 12 August 2016 (UTC) reply

Comment: I read the sample article and read no self-promotion. The article is entirely about political strategy. The quotes are not by the author but by Politico, explaining who the author is and why he is relevant to be published.

• Comment: this was a typical author's blurb that often runs with the article by the author. They are often author submitted, i.e. self-sourced. K.e.coffman ( talk) 00:46, 13 August 2016 (UTC) reply

• Delete as there's nothing at all convincing, nothing satisfying better. SwisterTwister talk 05:38, 12 August 2016 (UTC) reply

Don't delete the entry. All Members of the European Parliament (equivalent to Members of Congress in the US) have their Wikipedia pages. Marton Kovacs advises many of them, but only very few things are known about him. Currently, the European Parliament's website shows that he advises Members from at least three Member States of the EU, from three different political parties. His book 'How to Run the European Parliament' is read and followed by many in the European Parliament. According to the books's Amazon page, the book is recommended by politicians from Germany, Spain, Poland, Sweden, Finland, Belgium, Slovakia, and Bulgaria. The book is published under the pseudonym 'Marilyn Political'. This Wikipedia entry is the only source where the identity of 'Marilyn Political' is highighted and where the few public sources about Kovacs are collected: Kovacs publishes articles on political strategy in newspapers such as Politico and comments on political strategy issues in Belgian, Austrian, and Hungarian media outlets. The sources ORF.at and Index.hu are the most read news portals in Austria and Hungary. In the source ORF.at Kovacs is commenting on EU politics together with Hannes Swoboda, the leader of the European Socialists. Will his Wikipedia entry get deleted next? I believe 'this article is a stub' would be the right solution instead of deletion. EU politics, its key players, and relevance are not well known in the world. People who do not follow the matter should not push for deleting the few existing sources such as this.

• Comment: an "advisor" to MPs (i.e. a political consultant) is not an occupation that confers inherent notability. "All Members of the European Parliament (equivalent to Members of Congress in the US) have their Wikipedia pages. Marton Kovacs advises many of them" is not a valid argument, since notability is not WP:inherited. All articles need to stand on their own. K.e.coffman ( talk) 00:44, 13 August 2016 (UTC) reply

Further comment: the IP editor commenting here has only made two contributions thus far: Special:Contributions/81.192.170.158. K.e.coffman ( talk) 00:47, 13 August 2016 (UTC) reply

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