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The result was delete. Daniel ( talk) 04:39, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
Marilyn Jess
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Porn actress deleted at afd created with entirely unsuitable sources. Fails ent and gng Spartaz Humbug! 21:59, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep Since admissibility is based on the nature of the subject and not on the quality of the source. Jess is with Lahaie the best known French porn actresses from the 80s. Hektor ( talk) 15:01, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Just asserting this person is "best known x" is not enough. You have to show actual reliable sources that will lead to passing of GNG. Wikipedia is built on actual sources, and none have been presented that would lead to passing GNG, so we need to delete this article. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 15:07, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete the sources are too poor and claiming she is the best known French porn star of her day sounds like gossip because it can’t be verified. Trillfendi ( talk) 15:44, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- your answer just show that Wikipedia is Us centric and porn actors from other countries have a higher notability threshold to cross. Her most famous film of the 80s has just been rereleased in Blu ray just on her name.
LA FEMME OBJET : re-édition d'un film mythique qui réconcilie fesses et SF Which porn actor from the 80s in the Us could say that.
Hektor (
talk) 19:27, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
- @ Hektor: Porn actors have it rough here, period. It’s hard enough finding suitable sources without venturing into Reality Kings. Nobody cares who came from Timbuktu or Philadelphia, notability is the same for everyone, everywhere on here. The PORNBIO notability subject was deprecated, not even winning an AVN award is good enough anymore. If Marilyn Jess had as important a career as you allege you would’ve edited it accordingly. But you haven’t. Trillfendi ( talk) 01:34, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- your answer just show that Wikipedia is Us centric and porn actors from other countries have a higher notability threshold to cross. Her most famous film of the 80s has just been rereleased in Blu ray just on her name.
LA FEMME OBJET : re-édition d'un film mythique qui réconcilie fesses et SF Which porn actor from the 80s in the Us could say that.
Hektor (
talk) 19:27, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
Rough translation: A word also on the heroine, Marilyn Jess?
Before this film, Marylin was a young actress who hadn't shot much. Instantly, as soon as the movie came out, she became the new porn star, Brigitte Lahaie having just hung up. Her temper was completely different from Brigitte's, because Marylin was more mischievous, more mischievous and jovial. He's someone we see laughing a lot in the movies, but not in LA FEMME OBJET. The funny thing is that the movie that made her famous doesn't match her character at all. It was a real compositional role for her because she doesn't speak, she has very few expressions. She will remain the undisputed star of X until the end of her career, in 1986.
- Comment FWIW: " Brigitte Lahaie, Marilyn Jess and Clara Morgane are probably the top three French pornstars ever." [1] "...and was introduced to one of the biggest stars of French porn cinema from the ’70s and ’80s, Marilyn Jess." [2] "Marilyn Jess and with Olinka [two actresses who were well known in the 1970s and 1980s]" [3] "During hardcore cinema's second wave of popularity in late 1970s, French stars such as Brigitte Lahaie and Marilyn Jess, American stars such as Vanessa Del Rio, Annette Haven, and Leslie Bovee, and Danish porn power couple Bent and Bir Warburg were crucial to the financing and successful international distribution of theatrical porn films." [4]
References
- ^ Watson, Ian; Quaglia, Roberto. The Beloved of My Beloved. NewCon Press. p. 180. ISBN 978-0-9555791-9-6.
- ^ Cattet, Hélène; Forzani, Bruno (30 August 2018). "How We Ended Up Casting a Legendary French Porn Star in Our New Movie". Talkhouse.
- ^ Roussel, Violaine; Bielby, Denise. Brokerage and Production in the American and French Entertainment Industries: Invisible Hands in Cultural Markets. Lexington Books. p. 81. ISBN 978-0-7391-9314-3.
- ^ Björklund, Elisabet; Larsson, Mariah. Swedish Cinema and the Sexual Revolution: Critical Essays. McFarland. p. 223. ISBN 978-1-4766-6544-3.
- Regards, -- Goldsztajn ( talk) 12:05, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
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