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The result was merge‎ to Violations of non-combatant airspaces during the Russian invasion of Ukraine. If this article already has all of the necessary content Merged to it, this can be converted to a Redirect. Liz Read! Talk! 22:57, 14 April 2024 (UTC) reply

March 2024 Polish airspace violation

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Not notable. There is not much to say about this event that isn't in the article already. Furthermore, other than the deadly missile explosion in Przewodów in 2022, there have been several other events like these in Poland that we haven't given an article [1] [2]. Airspace violations in Moldova and Romania haven't got their own articles either, and they've been often, specially in Moldova. Simply I don't find this event notable. Super Ψ Dro 23:45, 24 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Support. This seems to fail WP:TENYEARS. Jebiguess ( talk) 01:49, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
If there is no follow-up report, this article should be merged. In fact, the description in Timeline of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (1 December 2023 – present)#24 March is sufficient. 日期20220626 ( talk) 02:28, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep – Article is sourced by RS, is very easily searchable on Google for dozens of other RS, and is about an event occurring on the same day as article creation and deletion. Nomination again is on the same day (i.e. less than 24 hours after the event occurred) so WP:RAPID is at play here (AfD less than 5 hours after creation of article). WP:DELAY was waiting for by over 12 hours after the event to help see notability, so the article was not rush created. The other events brought up amid the nomination also may be routine coverage events OR notable events to yet be created. Further research would have to be conducted to see which is the case, anyway that is a clear case of WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST, which is not valid for deletion. In short, the entire deletion nomination rests on WP:NEVENT, which it passess all criteria except for LASTING due to the very obvious RAPID deletion attempt. AfD should be closed as a Keep with the posibility of a future AfD OR merge discussion after it becomes clear (at least a week from now) if the event is routine or has lasting coverage. But yeah, keep due to a very poor RAPID deletion attempt. The Weather Event Writer ( Talk Page) 04:42, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    If there were no further developments following Poland's protest to Russia, this article should obviously be merged. 日期20220626 ( talk) 01:20, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply
*Speedy close. I urge the nominator to take this to a merge or redirect discussion. There is no way this will be deleted as it's notable within a larger event. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 05:13, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Violations of non-combatant airspaces during the Russian invasion of Ukraine already exists. Super Ψ Dro 09:58, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Rename as indeed "there have been several other events like these in Poland that we haven't given an article [1] [2]. Airspace violations in Moldova and Romania haven't got their own articles either, and they've been often, specially in Moldova." so this is a significant topic! Xobbitua ( talk) 08:27, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete, non notable as a indvidual event, one of the many such violations Marcelus ( talk) 10:15, 25 March 2024 (UTC) and merge to Violations of non-combatant airspaces during the Russian invasion of Ukraine Marcelus ( talk) 17:29, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Delete This event had little-to-no effect on the wider conflict, and does not have the notability deserving of a separate article. Royz-vi Tsibele ( talk) 19:49, 25 March 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: no reason to expect WP:LASTING effects. Possibly worthy of a mention in other articles/lists, but definitely not notable enough for its own article. Rosbif73 ( talk) 14:12, 26 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:03, 31 March 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I'd like to close this discussion as a Merge rather than Deletion as an ATD but there are two different Merge target articles being suggested here. Can we settle on one?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:15, 7 April 2024 (UTC) reply

I'll ping @ Ceyockey and @ Lar so they can consider the other target proposed (just above) which I think is better (it was also proposed by others earlier, I am not the originator). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:09, 8 April 2024 (UTC) reply
Merge to Violations of non-combatant airspaces during the Russian invasion of Ukraine; I think this list article is a good target, and it does not preclude inclusion in Poland–Russia relations#Russian invasion of Ukraine, but nor does it demand such inclusion. Regards --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me) 01:53, 9 April 2024 (UTC) reply
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