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PROD was refused for this neighborhood of South Bend with several newspaper.com clippings attached. That it is such a neighborhood now is inarguable; it's within the city limits, and may have been so for half a century or more. As such it is referenced in South Bend newspapers, but that doesn't cut it for notability, so the question is, what was going on before the city limits moved? At this juncture I must point out that "Maple Lane" is the name of the street that runs north/south roughly through the middle of the area. Topos and aerials only go back into the 1950s, and this area is older, but perhaps not by much: driving around the neighborhood suggests that the houses are mostly postwar. At any rate, I find nothing that says it was ever a town unto itself.
Mangoe (
talk) 00:37, 9 July 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep. I was going to be at delete on this one. The majority of the cites given in the declined prod, and in my own search, were about plans to repurpose a school in the locality for military storage. These articles are not about the community. The don't even verify that there is a community, only that a street of that name exists. That was until I saw
this clipping which shows that it was proposed in the 1950s that Maple Lane should form its own incorporated community. This was while it was nominally part of Clay Township but before expansion of that town had fully absorbed it. That is enough to show that this was once an independent community for the purposes of
WP:GEOLAND.
SpinningSpark 08:29, 9 July 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep I read through these PRODs, and by and large agree with them. Occasionally, however, I find one that is not like the others. I would encourage anyone who is researching this AFD to look at Newspapers.com, where there are a wealth of articles about Maple Lane, and clearly not as a street. There exists or once existed schools, school districts, churches and more. It was a 950-acre neighborhood started in 1922 with fanfare. Annexation discussions were held over a period of many years (I found it in articles from 1957 and 1958, the annexation happened was proposed in 1971, heavily opposed by the Maple Lane residents, and then there was a bill to de-annex give up on annexing it in 1977). The area (not just the school) was a source of controversy during the desegregation of public schools (over a period of years). This article deserves to exist per both
WP:GEOLAND and
WP:GNG. Here are a few of the sources I used in coming to this conclusion.
This annexation discussion from 1957 states there were 1,800 homes and at least 5,500 in population in the "Maple Lane area".
Maple Lane residents oppose annexation, schools discussion (1958)annexation repeal bill (1977). Not for
notability, but for interest
here's a sales add for lots in 1922. There is lots more. In any case, meets both GEOLAND and GNG.
Jacona (
talk) 15:00, 9 July 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment Maple Lane is 100 years old this year!
Jacona (
talk) 15:05, 9 July 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep passes GNG per proper
BEFORE conducted per Jacona.
Djflem (
talk) 20:02, 13 July 2022 (UTC)reply
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