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The result was delete-- Ymblanter ( talk) 15:46, 18 December 2014 (UTC) reply

Maar, North Dakota

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These two placenames were also added to OpenStreetMap by a single account around the time their articles were created, and they appear on Google Maps. The account that added them to OSM also added a number of fabricated locations elsewhere (e.g., Midzemuthleiy, Delaware, and I suspect these two are also a hoax and that their appearance on Google Maps is due to a user-submitted "correction". I can find no trace of them in Google Books nor the US Geographic Name Information System. The labeled lakes nearby in Google Maps do not have a name on USGS topo maps; the names were probably also faked by user submission. Furthermore, both calderas and maars are water-filled volcanic features; this region of the continent is a glaciated plain covered with till, which would preserve no such volcanic features. Choess ( talk) 03:35, 11 December 2014 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Montana-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 03:42, 11 December 2014 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of North Dakota-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 03:42, 11 December 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: Discussion at the improbably-named Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Midzemuthleiy, Delaware is showing that was made up, so its quite likely all of these all made-up. We don't require much for a populated place, but google maps and nothing else is highly unusual.-- Milowent has spoken 16:28, 11 December 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Delete both. No confirmation found: not in Geonames, not in Bing Maps, not in the big Times Comprehensive Atlas of the World, which in that region shows places as small as Fortuna, pop. 22. Google Maps alone is not enough for WP:NGEO even if it were trustworthy, and it is becoming clear that Google Maps/Earth is not an RS - effectively a wiki, and vulnerable to hoaxers like this one because they have a less effective Recent Changes Patrol than we have. JohnCD ( talk) 19:57, 11 December 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Delete both. Not verifiable by checking reliable sources. As JohnCD points out, Google Maps in not a reliable enough source to prove notability. As with Midzemuthleiy and Azimuth, Delaware, no evidence of passing WP:NGEO. • Gene93k ( talk) 01:03, 12 December 2014 (UTC) reply
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