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The result was delete. Based on the discussion, it seems like the only sources available are not independent, not reliable or too trivial to establish that GNG is met. The interview for example based on E.M.Gregory's comments appears to be mainly about a different topic, with little contradictions offered here
Jo-Jo Eumerus (
talk,
contributions) 07:32, 8 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Over the top Promotion for Non
notable individual. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Article is
bombarded with multiple sources, mostly primary, but none are independent reliable sources with any depth of coverage of this person. PR is not independent. Quotes from her are not coverage about her. Probable UPE.
duffbeerforme (
talk) 11:35, 30 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep it needs editing like no ones business but the subject does appear to be notable. Simply being biased and over the top promotional isn’t grounds for deletion if
WP:GNG is met and there appear to be at least a half dozen reliable ones among the 64 sources.
Horse Eye Jack (
talk) 18:06, 30 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete scores of sources, but they all seem to be PRIMARY, or press releases, or announcements that she is speaking on some panel or show. If she's notable, there should be profiles of her. Delete as PROMO. However, If someone can find 3 solid pieces of
WP:SIGCOV, please ping me and I will reconsider.
E.M.Gregory (
talk) 19:49, 1 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete For now, at least. The attempts at notability are grasping for straws going off the sources given.
Trillfendi (
talk) 23:12, 1 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Weak keep. Look encyclopedic but requires proper rewrite to suit neutral point of view.
Germcrow (
talk) 06:09, 2 May 2019 (UTC)reply
I removed entire sections of speeches and seminars sourced only to the org. sponsoring the event. Have not yet culled the section about her media appearences (2nd paragraph of "Career"), although it contains stuff like an appearance on some show sourced to a page called
Welcome to Lynn Richardson’s W.E.A.L.T.H. University - this is classic PROMO. The sources you cite are interviews she gave offering financial advice. Did you find and interviews about her? Your link to
[1] is PRIMARY, a notice on the website of an organization about Richardson appearing at an event that org sponsored. I note that subhead "Personal life" has no sources at all. The books have almost no sources - can anyone find book reviews or
WP:RS about her books? The NPR interview is about a scholarship she co-founded with a notable rap artist,
"Here to tell us more about the Hip Hop Sisters is its president Lynn Richardson. Lynn, welcome." Richardson then talks briefly about the scholarship. JET ran a snippet bio in an issue in which she had written a piece on financial advice. These potted author bios (usually written by the writer herself) are PRIMARY. This is NOT
WP:SIGCOV.
E.M.Gregory (
talk) 12:49, 3 May 2019 (UTC)reply
the interview on a local fox affiliate is a usable source
[2] It's about a book she co-authored with
MC Lyte. As is the brief mention on a N.J. station
[3] There is also a bit of coverage about the scholarship she established with
MC Lyte. What we lack is the kind of
WP:SIGCOV that passs
WP:GNG.
E.M.Gregory (
talk) 13:53, 3 May 2019 (UTC)reply
For me radio interviews are significant coverage especially when the interview is with a state broadcaster like NPR, I see no reason to favor other forms of media over radio. Being interviewed about an organization one is the president of isn’t exactly a trivial mention either, I’m confused as to why you think the quote "Here to tell us more about the Hip Hop Sisters is its president Lynn Richardson. Lynn, welcome.” proves the coverage is trivial rather than significant. I also feel like
WP:NOTCLEANUP is relevant now that we’ve established that some of the sources are WP:RS.
Horse Eye Jack (
talk) 19:00, 3 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Because a.) the interview is not about her,it's just her and a student promoting a new scholarship she co-founded with a donor. and b.) the scholarship appears to have been active for exactly one-year, at least, I am not seeing coverage beyond that year. and c.) it was generous of
MC Lyte to donate a scholarship, and Richardson got press by promoting it, but it is not enough to carry her past
WP:GNG.
E.M.Gregory (
talk) 20:51, 3 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Weak keep Some good sources out there. But needs more
Laosilika (
talk) 17:35, 3 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Which sources are you seeing that meet
WP:SIGCOV? Note that being interviewed by a journalist ≠ notability. She fails
WP:BASIC; we can't even find sources to source her place of residence, education, or occupational history - or sources to show that her consulting business as passing
WP:ORG, or that her books pass
WP:NBOOK. She is a has given interviews - so does my accountant, who has a column in a couple of local papers. Fails
WP:BASIC].
E.M.Gregory (
talk) 20:51, 3 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Still hunting for notability, I took a look at the "Awards" section.
The Chicago Defender, a venerable black newspaper, selects 2 - 3 dozen excellent black women to honour every year with its Women of Excellence award. (Chicago is a big city with lots of excellent black women.) One year they honoured Richardson
[5]. Being one of a sizeable group of women honoured by a local newspaper in a particular year ≠ notability. Please ping me if somebody finds
WP:SIGCOV.
E.M.Gregory (
talk) 21:08, 3 May 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete - does not meet
WP:ANYBIO - no significant contribution - article seems promotional - not notable -
Epinoia (
talk) 03:00, 6 May 2019 (UTC)reply
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