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The result was no consensus. To me, this just seems like an "it's notable!" "no it isn't!" "yes it is!" shouting match.
Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 12:53, 29 August 2020 (UTC)reply
You literally just added those five entries after I created the AfD. Only one has an article and even that has questionable notability. The rest are just bare mentions in another source.
Ajf773 (
talk) 10:20, 20 August 2020 (UTC)reply
As noted in the
similar AFD recently, we need a
List of shopping malls in Africa to merge these to where the countries have a small number of notable entries. Those countries that have enough to merit standalone lists can just be linked to from that continent-wide list. postdlf (talk) 22:06, 20 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Apologies. My reading of LISTN (Lists that fulfill recognized informational, navigation, or development purposes often are kept regardless of any demonstrated notability. In my opinion the list fulfills the purposes of aiding reader's navigation, and providing information.
Wm335td (
talk) 17:25, 21 August 2020 (UTC)reply
One blue-link is not doing a lot for aiding navigation.
Ajf773 (
talk) 20:04, 21 August 2020 (UTC)reply
(Lists that fulfill recognized informational ...purposesWm335td (
talk) 19:05, 22 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Wikipedia is not a platform for free advertising non-notable businesses.
Ajf773 (
talk) 22:02, 23 August 2020 (UTC)reply
And if you expect I will display some patriotic feelings and run to save the Polish list, you are mistaken. I'd be happy to vote delete on it too. Those lists are really getting out of hand, per
WP:INDISCRIMINATE. The navigational template like
Template:Shopping_malls_in_Poland plus categories are quite sufficient for me. Now, if there are sources to satisfy LISTN, maybe we could try to rescue some, but so far, as you say, most of those lists are woefully undersourced. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus|
reply here 12:41, 21 August 2020 (UTC)reply
It can’t simultaneously be fine as a nav template and category yet indiscriminate as a list when they all have the same scope. I personally have little use for nav templates that you can’t annotate like lists, you don’t seem to like lists, to each their own. All of these methods of indexing coexist per
WP:NOTDUP. postdlf (talk) 20:10, 21 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Piotrus, it's not the first time he's made this
insinuation of racism. It shouldn't be necessary to make snide personal comments on any AfD.
ReykYO! 07:12, 23 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Piotrus, I wouldn't say it is completely dead, just enforced onesidedly. Suppose, for the sake of argument, that you wrote a bunch of articles that I thought were a load of crap. If I brought them to AfD with the same sort of thinly veiled implication that you're editing from a Polish nationalist viewpoint, I'd be raked over the coals at ANI and rightly so. Yet somehow "Keep- of course Poland McPolandface isn't nominating lists of malls in his country for deletion" is allowed to pass without raising an eyebrow.
WP:NPA is for protecting pseudo-civil snark, not the likes of us.
ReykYO! 15:48, 23 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep A list of shopping malls in any country would undoubtedly meet
WP:LISTN. Redundancy between navboxes/categories and lists isn't a bad thing and even encouraged by
WP:NOTDUPE.
SD0001 (
talk) 16:19, 27 August 2020 (UTC)reply
How do you figure that? For a list to pass
WP:LISTN there needs to be a considerable number of notable entries or a list that is notable as a set. We're not seeing that in this article.
Ajf773 (
talk) 21:25, 27 August 2020 (UTC)reply
There are no mentions of any particular shopping malls in that article, there is a photograph of the Africa Mall, that's all.
Ajf773 (
talk) 20:47, 28 August 2020 (UTC)reply
And the Africa Mall is a particular mall. The article mainly talks about the malls as a group or set but that's fine because that's exactly what LISTN expects.
Andrew🐉(
talk) 21:49, 28 August 2020 (UTC)reply
A particular insignificant mall.
Ajf773 (
talk) 01:56, 29 August 2020 (UTC)reply
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