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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 23:36, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
List of renamed cities, towns and regions in Turkey
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There is only one source (Index Anatolicus, also called NişanyanMap). It is not RS, and the article is improperly referenced. Much of the content is not also found on that site. Many of the unsourced names are just ancient names, so it gives the wrong impression that these names were changed by a century-old state all at once. I suggest a WP:TNT. Moreover, I would prefer a category of some sort, because this list is not exhaustive and is still very long. Or the scope of the article could be redetermined, so that it would be major settlements instead of all kinds of places. Aintabli ( talk) 18:16, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. Aintabli ( talk) 18:16, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Lists. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:18, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
- TNT The topic is interesting (especially given the renamings occuring in the Atatürk era), but the current incarnation is way too cluttered. Turkey has some of the most ancient traces of permanent habitation, literally every town is bound to have been renamed a bunch of times. And the article provides no historical context. Something like Place name changes in Turkey is more relevant, while at the same time presenting information (including lists) with historical context rather than a raw list.
- Another option for the article would be to shift the way it is presented, into something like List of former place names in Turkey - in this way, the focus is less on the renaming and more on the historical names, which can be developed on as a way to structure the list, while still being helpful.
- Even then, having a category for places in Turkey that were renamed (by whom?) is incredibly vague, and doesn't connect them very much historically (it could have been the Romans just like it could have been Atatürk). A category for places renamed by modern Turkey would work better, as there is a historical connection. Chaotic Enby ( talk) 20:22, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: I wanted this to be a keep as a good CLN/AOAL, so I was going to ref entries in List of renamed cities, towns and regions in Turkey#Adana Province section as an example. With the exception of the map (doubtful RS) I couldn't find refs for most of the content. Trying to improve this convinced me this needs TNT. // Timothy :: talk 19:51, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. Might as well be named "list of cities in Turkey" as essentially all populated places in this ancient land have been renamed over the centuries, and not just in the republican era. As such this is a pretty indiscriminate and meaningless mess. -- GGT ( talk) 20:50, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
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