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The result was keep. Missvain ( talk) 02:58, 2 December 2020 (UTC) reply

List of religious movements that began in the United States

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There is the potential for an article under this title but right now it is just a unsourced list based on Wikipedia and is WP:OR. I've checked Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lists to see what the standards are for lists and I think that this one fails to include its selection criteria or how it is dating the origin of these movements. Also, this is a mix of denominations, churches, religious practices and religious movements. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:11, 14 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 17:15, 14 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Religion-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 17:15, 14 November 2020 (UTC) reply

• If you think there is potential for the article, then I suggest a Draftify.
  • Oh dear. Looks like I forgot to sign my comment again. For those wondering, I made this !vote on the 14th. Foxnpichu ( talk) 16:31, 16 November 2020 (UTC) reply
• Keep: per nom this list does need work, but I think it works well as a navigation list per WP:CLN / WP:AOAL. The page views are significant (7000+), I believe this shows the list has some interest / usefulness. No objection to Draft if there is a consensus for this option. I will try and do some work on the lead.   //  Timothy ::  talk  12:07, 16 November 2020 (UTC) reply
• Comment: Liz, per my keep above, I have done a little work on the article, specifically the 18th century and the lead. I'd like you to take a look at 18th century; I think this is representative of what the article could become. I ask that you consider WP:CLN, "Consider that lists may include features not available to categories, and building a rudimentary list of links is a useful step in improving a list. Deleting these rudimentary lists is a waste of these building blocks" and the thought this could eventually evolve into a WP:SUMMARYSTYLE article.

I agree that the selection criteria needs clarity. I know this is backassward (pardon), but because the list already exists, I think this could be clarified as someone goes through and improves the list. The bigger problem is the bias. I'd be willing to work on this (slowly) if the list is kept.   //  Timothy ::  talk  15:36, 16 November 2020 (UTC) reply

• Keep Easily passes WP:LISTN as there are entire books on the subject including: New Age, Neopagan, and New Religious Movements – Alternative Spirituality in Contemporary America; Mystics and Messiahs – Cults and New Religions in American History; The New Religious Movements Experience in America. And note that the page has existed for over 16 years with attention from dozens of editors. See also WP:NEXIST and WP:NOTCLEANUP. Andrew🐉( talk) 21:53, 29 November 2020 (UTC) reply
• Keep Long established page that satisfies WP:LISTN. Elms ^super 02:52, 30 November 2020 (UTC) reply
• Keep, meets WP:LISTN, numerous books cover groups of members of this list, some brought out above, also fulfills navigational purpose, as for apparent confusion over what should be included ("Also, this is a mix of denominations, churches, religious practices and religious movements"), that is a matter for the talkpage. Coolabahapple ( talk) 02:06, 1 December 2020 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.