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The result was delete as not meeting the notability standard for lists. RL0919 ( talk) 22:16, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
List of people on the postage stamps of the Soviet Union
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Long list, but not a source in sight. None of these are verified in any way. Just like the other "list of people on the postage stamps of X", there is no interest in maintaining this topic, nor does there seem to be a reason to maintain this information. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 01:06, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people and Russia. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 01:06, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Do our policies and guidelines on sourcing really mandate third-party sources in this case? The names of the persons depicted are usually printed directly on the stamps themselves, the same way that the actors in a movie are printed in its onscreen credits, and we don't usually require third-party references for the latter. The argument that "there is no interest in maintaining this topic" is irrelevant, if not for the lack of necessity for third-party references, then for the fact that the set of people on Soviet stamps is no longer expanding. There may be entries missing from the list, but there is only a finite number of them and so the list will eventually become complete, with no need for further maintenance apart from routine housekeeping (reverting vandalism, fixing broken links, etc.). —
Psychonaut (
talk) 05:25, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Just about every other "list of people on the postage stamps of X" article is up for deletion or prod. There is a massive consensus that these lists are serving no purpose. Lists still needed to be sourced and verifiable, no matter what they're about. Plus, this list has had 13 years, which is plenty of time for it to get "maintenance" that it hasn't gotten. Exactly how much more time do you want before it magically turns into a Featured List overnight? Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 13:25, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- I notice multiple redlinked articles on the list. This leads me to ask "do we know the links we have go the roght place"? I recently (as in about an hour ago) went through the Honduras list. One link went to the wrong person, but I was able to find the article on the right person. Another went to a wrong person, but we apparently do not have an article on Vice President Abraham Williams. I did not check all the other blue links to make sure they went to the right people, so we could have other false links. The ones I checked seems more likely to be misplaced. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 14:16, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- @ TendPoundHammer: You state that there is already a "massive consensus" to delete these articles; could you provide evidence of this? It would be helpful for those participating in this discussion to review the arguments that have already been put forth for similar articles. — Psychonaut ( talk) 07:36, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Pinging @ Fram: and @ Johnpacklambert: for their contributions to similarly themed AFDs. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 13:26, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete our polices clearly require multiple reliable, 3rd party secondary sources giving indepth coverage to the topic as a group to have a freestanding list. I think we should just delete, but there is a vague possiblity we could redirect to postage stamps and postal history of the Soiviet Union. I do not see anything demonstrating that this subject as a group has received the secondary coverage which is an absolute prerequistite to having an article. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 13:50, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. This is something for another kind of project, outside of Wikipedia. BD2412 T 21:49, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep; all available evidence tell us that these people were depicted on stamps because they are important to the history and society of their country. Orland ( talk) 22:37, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - While the individuals on the list may be notable themselves, there need to be actual reliable sources that discuss this topic as a group or set for it to pass WP:LISTN, which there is none. Rorshacma ( talk) 17:38, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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