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The result was delete. postdlf ( talk) 18:30, 20 August 2016 (UTC) reply

List of graphical user interface builders and rapid application development tools

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Unencyclopedic list and spam magnet. The overall scope of this list is so broad as to be irrecoverably broken.

The two concepts here are each something like 30 years old. They have no fundamental overlap: GUI and RAD are different tasks, although many tools will support both. 30 years is an impossibly long time in computing and for which to describe dev tools as a single listable concept.

As it is, this is an unencyclopedic spam magnet. Non-notable tools are dumped here, with inlined ELs to their vendor sites, for promotion rather than explanation. There is no encyclopedic scope to this list: there is no narrative of conceptual explanation or of historical development.

30 years history is too long to present as a single coherent list. Why should tools from the 4GL punchcard era be presented alongside Windows desktop app toolsets, JavaScript Web UI widgets and Android gadgets?

I see no way in which this list article can be made suitable for inclusion here. At most, it should be a category of existing articles on notable products. Probably a set of sub-categories. Andy Dingley ( talk) 15:00, 11 August 2016 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 02:18, 12 August 2016 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 02:18, 12 August 2016 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. North America 1000 02:18, 12 August 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Delete -- indiscriminate collection of information and spam magnet. No clear criteria for inclusion. K.e.coffman ( talk) 06:57, 18 August 2016 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 10:13, 18 August 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Delete We already have a lengthy list of the former category at Graphical user interface builder and we don't seem to have a list of "RAD tools," but we could. However even that category sounds entirely too broad thus it doesn't exist. That solution is still miles better than this "indiscriminate" list — as already mentioned. Mr. Magoo ( talk) 13:41, 18 August 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Delete this indiscriminate list, which incidentally got spammed by a COI editor just before I posted this. - MrOllie ( talk) 15:11, 18 August 2016 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.