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The result was no consensus‎. as there is disagreement over whether this article complies with WP:NLIST. Liz Read! Talk! 21:30, 2 June 2024 (UTC) reply

List of Monday Night Football results (1970–1989)

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Just another case of WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to the most ardent fans. Fails WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. As with sources per WP:RS besides being mostly unsourced; both sources are about the game and nothing to do with the TV coverage or just a mere mention and another is a redirect link; not doing anything to help this list to assert notability. An WP:ATD will be to trim and merge it into Monday Night Football. SpacedFarmer ( talk) 07:55, 19 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Merging multiple deletion discussions into a single AfD is a nomination choice, not a valid reason for procedural close, unless another AfD for the same page is already in progress. Please address the specific article.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 21:25, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply

  • Keep a sensible way of organizing this data. As far as WP:NLIST, CBS Sports organizes information this way [1], as do teams such as the Dallas Cowboys [2]. As far as WP:ROUTINE, that is an argument against articles for individual games, Routine events such as sports matches ... may be better covered as part of another article. Walsh90210 ( talk) 23:49, 26 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    The first source is pretty good. Are there more from the time period that's mentioned? The 2nd is considered WP:PRIMARY. Conyo14 ( talk) 01:06, 27 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    Would it be considered primary? A football team is not the broadcaster or the television network, they just run onto the field and play, so I'm missing what's primary about it. Randy Kryn ( talk) 04:37, 27 May 2024 (UTC) reply
    The Dallas Cowboys website (owned by the NFL) producing something about themselves would not be independent, thus WP:PRIMARY per their results of the team they play on the field. Conyo14 ( talk) 06:38, 27 May 2024 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per WP:NLIST which states "One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources, per the above guidelines; notable list topics are appropriate for a stand-alone list." Monday Night Football was a notable TV show, looked forward to every week in the era of three or four networks. It was a national event, only the best games were slated for Monday night. And it made stars of its announcers. Then per Walsh90210, who presents a good case. Randy Kryn ( talk) 03:31, 31 May 2024 (UTC) reply
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