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The result was no consensus. CBE meets weak sourcing. No indication a 3rd relist would change the split here. Star Mississippi 01:57, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
Leslie Butterfield
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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of WP:notability under SNG or GNG. Basically a promotional -resume. The lead just says that he is a British brand and communications expert.
The references are just a collection of mentions / announcements on him. Nothing anywhere near even one GNG source.
Some concern that the creator has 28 lifetime edits, all on this article. Article was tagged for UPE concern by somebody else and the tag was quickly removed by an IP. The IP that removed it has 2 lifetime edits...one removing the tag and the other putting a link at another article to this article. North8000 ( talk) 03:18, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment. I looked at a couple of sources and they do seem weak: mostly quoting him on other things and mentioning him briefly, but he appears to have been awarded the Order of the British Empire? Mrfoogles ( talk) 03:40, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. Being a commander of the Order of the British Empire is a strong hint that he's notable. The article 2007_Birthday_Honours#Commander_of_the_Order_of_the_British_Empire_(CBE) includes a listing for Leslie Paul Butterfield, Managing Partner, The Ingram Partnership. For services to the Advertising Industry. See also https://www.campaignindia.in/article/interbrands-global-chief-strategy-officer-relocates-to-china/418253/amp and https://en.everybodywiki.com/Leslie_Butterfield_CBE (unreliable source but good for context). Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 03:39, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. A CBE has usually been considered to be notable per WP:ANYBIO #1. See here. People are not awarded such a high honour for nothing. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 10:06, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. "CBE" is prestigious title and award. Meets WP:ANYBIO. Maxcreator ( talk) 21:11, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Neutral. I don't think an article about a person should be kept purely on the strength of a CBE. Dozens are given out every year. The article needs to make a claim of notability. At present it reads like a CV. Deb ( talk) 07:45, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Actually, looking at it again, I think it's obvious that there's an undeclared COI here and I'm going to tag the article accordingly. 07:49, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Dozens every year in a country of 67 million is not many! These are highly prestigious honours. --
Necrothesp (
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- While I think that wp:notability does unofficially take real world notability into account a bit, for biographies the core of it is about available of GNG sources from which to build an article. As I noted in the nomination "The references are just a collection of mentions / announcements on him. Nothing anywhere near even one GNG source. " Sincerely, North8000 ( talk) 15:39, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, asilvering ( talk) 04:02, 6 April 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I still do not see a consensus here. Either a being award a CBE is sufficient or it isn't. Is there any specific guideline on honors such as this and notability?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:56, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
- Neutral - I added the Authority control template at the bottom of the article. For what it's worth, that did kick up VIAF hits in multiple languages that show his woks are in various international libraries. Seems to me that makes him notable. — Maile ( talk) 14:49, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
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