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The result was delete. -- Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 01:27, 31 December 2015 (UTC) reply

Khesrau Hayat Kakakhel

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A young man who appears to have written a couple of pieces for the local news. The references do not establish notability. Fails WP:GNG   Velella   Velella Talk   12:44, 15 December 2015 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. sst✈ (discuss) 16:18, 15 December 2015 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 02:51, 16 December 2015 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 02:51, 16 December 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Delete for now at best but no drafting and userfying as I'm not seeing a better article for this anytime soon and there's nothing currently to suggest a better notable article. SwisterTwister talk 05:32, 16 December 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Speedy Delete as self-promotional, and clearly non-notable. The only sources in a search on that name are the subject's blog post. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NARTIST ScrpIron IV 20:32, 15 December 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Delete, does not meet WP:ANYBIO, a search brings up nothing useable. The article creator appears to be improving wikipedia's coverage of their locality, which is admirable, but may give rise to conflict of interest issues. A substantial contributor to the article may also be/or closely associated with the article subject (see here [1] and here User:Khesrawkakakhail). The tone of the article is highly promotional, the removal of which along with unsubstantiated statements, will just about leave a blank page. Coolabahapple ( talk) 16:18, 17 December 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Strongly Keep The page is now in its initial stage. The author might collect any sources or trying to get any sources. I am not favor of its deletion as far as its notability concerns. Here in Pakistan, every Wikipedian faces such challenges that either their pages are declared to be orphan or lack of notability. I recommend this page should be kept as normal. With the passage of time, its issues would be cleared. Thank you all. AQHayat ( talk) 20:16, 17 December 2015 (UTC) reply
    Keep Khesrau Hayat Kakakhel is not just a writer but also an artist. Some of his artistic creativity have been added on his page. These pieces of art art are strong witness of his effort. So, the page must not be deleted. Bashar ( talk) 20:26, 17 December 2015 (UTC) Duplicate !vote struck. —  JJMC89( T· C) 03:59, 19 December 2015 (UTC) reply
  • NOTE TO CLOSING ADMIN Both posts above from "Bashar" and "AQHayat" are actually the main contributor (and subject?) of the article, User:Khesrawkakakhail - and very very poorly forged, at that. ScrpIron IV 20:34, 17 December 2015 (UTC) reply
    • ScrapIronIV! I was using the signature "AQHayat" but I changed it into "Bashar" just now. From time to time I change my signature, that's not a big issue for anyone. Anyhow, I was talking about Khesrau Hayat Kakakhel, if you will visit this page, you might see the artistic work of him. Thanks. Bashar ( talk) 20:43, 17 December 2015 (UTC) reply
      Contributing more than once to an AfD under different names? Right. That was totally legit. ScrpIron IV 20:45, 17 December 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Strongly Keep The person is seemed to be a notable writer as I visited the references given below the page. The person is keen in the field of Art. He has created his own work i.e Calligraphy, single pencil sketch and multi-colored drawing. I think this page should be kept strongly. 39.33.46.21 ( talk) 23:42, 17 December 2015 (UTC) reply
    ..and from an IP address - if it wasn't so obvious it would be worth starting an SPI here   Velella   Velella Talk   09:21, 18 December 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Note: WP:Articles for deletion/Khesrau Hayat Kakakhel (2nd nomination) has been procedurally closed as a duplicate of this. —  JJMC89( T· C) 05:43, 18 December 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Userify: via WP:PAK - this is an WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. I understand that there might be more local coverage but I can not comment about it until I see it. The WP:BURDEN is on the creator(s). It needs to come through AFC and that too after establishing notability. -- lTopGunl ( talk) 16:44, 18 December 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Userify I see zero issue with giving an article more time. -- MurderByDeletionism "bang!" 06:27, 19 December 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Delete non-notable local journalist. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 08:17, 23 December 2015 (UTC) reply

Keep I think there is no any doubt about the writer. so must be kept. Ghizeri ( talk) 09:24, 23 December 2015 (UTC) Ghizeri ( talkcontribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, clpo13( talk) 09:34, 23 December 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. It should also be noted that there is blatant sockpuppetry here. CatcherStorm talk 11:15, 23 December 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Comment - I hope no one will actually considering drafting and userfying this as there's obviously nothing noticeably acceptable to act as such. This is easily something that can be restarted when better, with none of its current material. Simply having a few apparently local news items is unlikely enough to actually convince drafting and userfying and, at best, I would only suggest it if actually needed. SwisterTwister talk 05:43, 24 December 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Fails WP:GNG and WP:NARTIST.Subject is 23 years and is upcoming and currently fails the notabilty criteria .It may be case of WP:TOOSOON. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 18:05, 29 December 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - Clearly fails WP:GNG, and not close to passing Artist criteria. No point in userfying either. Onel5969 TT me 14:09, 30 December 2015 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.