The result was no consensus. This discussion is badly fractured and establishing a consensus here is very difficult. Additionally to this, the article has been changed somewhat significantly during the discussion (not necessarily a bad thing, especially where it incorporates some of the new information found). No prejudice towards a renomination should someone wish to do so. Daniel ( talk) 05:08, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
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The reference to the subject does not satisfy the notability guidelines. Clearly failing WP:GNG, as well as failing WP:NBIO. Bimanmandal ( talk) 20:01, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
Voxl ( talk) 20:52, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
Keep the "Kevin Xu" Article
The "Kevin Xu" article should be retained as it meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines with significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. These sources detail his notable impact and achievements. Additionally, if the article is kept, I recommend incorporating information about any controversies or disputes involving this individual, ensuring a more comprehensive and balanced representation of the subject.
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SourcesPeople are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.
- If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
The article notes: "Xu, 35, inherited the company in 2015 after the unexpected death of his father, Dr. Rongxiang Xu, who founded MEBO. At the age of 27, the younger Xu was not ready to take over an international corporation, but he received much help and encouragement from mentors to help him get through the transition. ... The $1 million donation also gives Xu some benefits and responsibility, as he now co-chairs the APEC Host Committee ... Even though Kevin Xu lives in Los Angeles, he has strong ties with the Bay Area, too. Xu serves as the chair the board of directors at the Bay Area Council, a pro-business group in San Francisco. He’s also the board chair of Street Media LLC, which owns the Marina Times."
The article notes: "徐鹏出生的1988年是美宝集团成立的第二年,与美宝一起成长,... 2011年,从南加州大学神经科学专业毕业后,中西方科学和文化的融会贯通让他的视野和格局上升到新的境界和高度,他更加深刻地感知到人生价值和生命意义的神圣内涵。毕业后,徐鹏进入美宝,开始与他的父亲徐荣祥一起研究和发展人体再生复原科学技术,为人类的健康和生命质量提升探索新的可能。"
From Google Translate: "Kevin Xu was born in 1988, the second year after MEBO Group was established. He grew up with MEBO... In 2011, after graduating from the University of Southern California with a major in neuroscience, he studied Chinese and Western sciences and The integration of cultures brought his vision and structure to a new realm and height, and he more deeply felt the sacred connotation of the value and meaning of life. After graduation, Xu Peng entered MEBO and began to study and study with his father Xu Rongxiang. Develop human body regeneration and restoration science and technology to explore new possibilities for improving human health and quality of life."
Although the article is overly promotional, Lux Mag's about page says, "Lux is a feminist magazine of politics and culture founded in 2021. We publish a glossy print edition three times a year featuring our award-winning writers, and a regular newsletter." It lists an advisory board, an editor-in-chief, editors, and contributing editors.
The article notes: "He was born and raised in California, but we meet in London – he came for Royal Ascot, but also for meetings with charities and NGOs he’s interested in – before he headed to Japan for that country’s first-ever G20 summit. He’s on the advisory board of the California-China Trade Office, serves on the Asian Advisory Board at the University of Southern California’s Davis School of Gerontology, mentors young entrepreneurs at MIT, is the founder of the Kevin Xu Initiative at the Harris School of Public Policy at the University of Chicago and has endowed a new Neurotechnology Center in California Institute of Technology. The list goes on. Perhaps the relationships he is most proud of, however, are his ties to two former US presidents, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. He’s a member of the Clinton Global Initiative and a contributor to the Obama Foundation, and recently spent a fortnight with Clinton in the US Virgin Islands, working with the 42nd president of the United States in connection with its efforts to help rebuild the region after the devastating 2017 hurricanes. ... And what of his co-ownership of Californian media outlet LA Weekly, which he acquired in 2017 alongside several other local investors?"
The article notes: "生物醫藥公司MEBO的執行長、華裔徐鵬捐贈100萬作為APEC的舉辦經費,他也是參與APEC捐贈的最高贊助商之一、目前捐贈最多的華裔。"
From Google Translate: "Kevin Xu, CEO of the biomedical company MEBO and a Chinese-American, donated 1 million to fund APEC. He is also one of the top sponsors of APEC donations and the Chinese-American who has donated the most."
Even without the Lux Mag article, there is sufficient coverage in the other sources for Kevin Xu to pass Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria, which says, "multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability".
Cunard ( talk) 22:44, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. Assessment of recently discovered sources would be helpful.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Liz
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The article notes: "眼前这个1988年出生的小伙,8岁就旅居国外,多元化的生活环境混合出他更独到的见解,他更善于找到中、西交融的切合点。2015年4月,美宝集团创始人、美宝集团董事会前主席徐荣祥在美国意外逝世。... 在父亲葬礼上,徐鹏收到两封手写的信,一封来自美国前总统克林顿,一封来自美国前总统奥巴马,... 一年后,徐鹏在山东济南出生。8岁时,徐鹏被送往美国学习。 ... 在2015年接手经营美宝集团之前,美国加利福尼亚州州长布朗就授予徐鹏顾问一职,助推加利福尼亚和中国之间的经贸往来。"
From DeepL and Google Translate: "The young man, born in 1988, has been living abroad since he was eight years old, and his diverse living environment has mixed with his unique insights, making him more adept at finding points of convergence between China and the West. ... Kevin Xu graduated from the University of Southern California, majoring in neuroscience. He is currently the Vice President of China Foreign Trade Council, Director of China Trade and Investment Commission, Chairman of Global Greater Bay Area Strategic Health Committee, and Chairman of the Board of Mebo Group. ... At his father's funeral, Xu Peng received two handwritten letters, one from the former U.S. President Clinton, one from the former U.S. President Barack Obama ... A year later, Kevin Xu was born in Jinan, Shandong. At the age of 8, Kevin Xu was sent to the United States to study. ... Before Kevin Xu took over the management of MEBO Group in 2015, Governor Brown of California, USA, appointed Xu as a consultant to promote economic and trade exchanges between California and China."
Anything you submit will be edited mercilessly to make it neutral. Many autobiographical articles have become a source of dismay to their original authors after a period of editing by the community, and in several instances their original authors have asked that they be deleted – typically unsuccessfully, because if an article qualifies for deletion the community will typically do that without prompting, and an article won't be deleted just because its subject is unhappy with it.There are many other websites besides Wikipedia which would allow for more control for Kevin Xu to publish a more positive biography about himself and to continue to promote MEBO and Dr. Rongxiang Xu in a positive light. Cielquiparle ( talk) 06:56, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
I am striking my previous !vote as I still really don't like the article (it has the appearance of "reputation laundering"), and a lot of the other independent coverage is more about the controversy about his father rather than about him, but if it is kept, I will try to help fix it.– thank you for reevaluating the sources and striking your previous vote. I've rewritten the article to remove promotional content and to make the focus more on him rather than on his father. I've tried to make the article as balanced as possible in touching upon the company's controversy with his father but not spending an overwhelming amount of ink on it. I hope the rewrite makes it easier for you to support the article's retention.
Cunard ( talk) 11:51, 27 November 2023 (UTC)