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The result was delete. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 14:07, 27 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Kassotis family

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Recently created page about a Greek family, apparently by an account with an autobiographical COI. Despite superficial appearances, nothing of this is properly sourced - wikilinks go to pages that don't even mention the item in question, book links go to works that mention the general events in question but not the specific people allegedly acting in them. The only potentially legitimate source is a local historian from the 1950s who may have mentioned one family member as playing a role in the local village history of the mid-19th century. All the rest is just unpublished or self-published "family archives". Nothing that would establish clear notability of any one member of the family, let along notability of the family as a whole. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:16, 20 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Hi guys. As the editor who wrote the article I'm actually ok with this and acknowledge all the above points. This was a draft for some time and only moved it here after I became autoconfirmed to gather more feedback from other editors (not much feedback for draft pages out there). I understand it doesn’t fit all the criteria but as a personal favour for the future can I ask exactly where things went wrong with the sources? I know I botched this one but it’s important to understand that it wasn’t intentional and I did this mostly for practice for better future articles on other subjects. This family are actually relatives of mine and it was my first historical project after I tried to complete my own family tree for years. I didn’t embellish anything and all the things I wrote are real but how exactly could I present them better? Is it the language barrier of the sources or the content of the sources themselves? Also what’s an ideal source for the names of the family members if not the registry office of their country of origin? Are there better ways to prove their relation and more importantly their existence? Thanks in advance and sorry for taking up your time with all this. Please don't yell at me, I come in peace. CapJoe2 15:54, 20 April 2020 (UTC) reply

• Delete As a gesture of good will I’m going to speed up the process and vote for the deletion of the article since I am unable to find information in the British and American encyclopaedias mentioned above and that’s proof enough that maybe writing this page was a mistake. Again I’d like to point out that this was a practice project for me, I didn’t do it in bad faith or to make Wikipedia a less informative place and that I will take the feedback received here and be a better editor in the future. If you’re reading this I encourage you to vote for deletion too so we can put this to bed. I’m the one who created the article in the first place so if I couldn’t find any English sources chances are you won’t find them either so let’s kill this one and move on. Thanks for your time and for your advice regarding sources. CapJoe2 ( talk |  contrib) ^{( ping me)} 07:18, 21 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Greece-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU ^(T) 14:56, 20 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. dibbydib ( T ･ C) 23:39, 20 April 2020 (UTC) reply

• Delete - another article about a family that has one or two notable members, but the family itself is not notable. Bearian ( talk) 13:16, 23 April 2020 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.