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The result was no consensus. I don't see a need to keep relisting this. Most likely the article can be salvaged, but if not, it can be nominated again.
Aervanath (
talk) 16:11, 2 November 2020 (UTC)reply
A borderline case, but I think the subject of this article fails
WP:BASIC. I don't think being CEO of
Cambridge Analytica, however notorious it may be, is enough for
WP:NBUSINESSPEOPLE. He's been an exec at a number of firms, so a potential redirect would face a
WP:XY problem.
AleatoryPonderings (
talk) 23:54, 7 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep. He was featured in the Netflix documentary
The Great Hack (see
The_Great_Hack#Cast) and has received media coverage in connection with the
Facebook–Cambridge Analytica data scandal. For example, he was highlighted in debates in parliament on the connections between the company and the Conservatives, so it's more his role in connection with the broader affair than the business position in itself that establishes his notability. (The same would probably be true for other key people involved with that affair, e.g. Nix, Kaiser, Wylie etc.) Although SCL liked to operate in the shadows, I think the chairman of a company that sets out to influence hundreds of elections globally is sufficiently relevant. (Also note that the article includes far more sources now than when it was nominated for deletion). --
Skafjr75 (
talk) 23:57, 7 October 2020 (UTC)reply
It seems to me that there is some public interest in him, even beyond Cambridge Analytica:
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Skafjr75 (
talk) 00:25, 8 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Can we redirect to the company? Someone may search for it.
Spudlace (
talk) 03:44, 13 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Spudlace, He's been an executive at
Cambridge Analytica and
SCL Group, so there may be an
WP:XY issue, but if it seems he's best known for association with Cambridge Analytica a redirect there would seem reasonable as an ATD.
AleatoryPonderings (
talk) 04:00, 13 October 2020 (UTC)reply
If the article is to be redirected, I think a redirect to Cambridge Analytica is a reasonable option, although I still think there are enough sources to justify a stand-alone article in this case. --
Skafjr75 (
talk) 06:10, 13 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep - public figure involved in a scandal. Since 2007, I have had the same opinion that people involved in political scandals almost always are notable. 15:19, 13 October 2020 (UTC) — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Bearian (
talk •
contribs)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Natg 19 (
talk) 01:44, 14 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete. Basically a smear article. "Involved in scandal" and no detail how he was involved, whether his role was significant or just a scapegoat. No prejudice against recreation.
Staszek Lem (
talk) 03:43, 14 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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GirthSummit (blether) 14:18, 21 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: we need more for consensus
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Andrew nyr (
talk,
contribs) 05:56, 28 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep In a
WP:BEFORE search on Google multiple reliable and independent sources are found specifically about Julian and his career. Per
WP:N,
WP:V, and
WP:RS Julian is notable. Are they clouded in controversy? Absolutely! Most actions considered scandalous are surrounded by controversy. As far as the tone of the article goes, it only speaks to what the sources provide. AfD is not article clean-up. If there are other views and sources to back it up then edit the article to include these POV's and provide the sources. Wikipedia is only concerned with
WP:GNG which the subject passes. --
Tsistunagiska (
talk) 12:25, 28 October 2020 (UTC)reply
Userify or Draftify. This isn't a usable biography. A biography has to give some sort of context to a person life, like the basic elements of birth , education, positions. I think a ceo of a major company will almost always have enough sources to justify inclusion,; whether it should be a fixed rule is a difficult question, becauseit dependso n the notability fo the company. If the notability is from the scandal, his role in it must be actually explained, properly and with good sources, according to the requirements of WP:BLP, which is policy and takes precdence over the notability guideline. DGG (
talk ) 06:19, 31 October 2020 (UTC)reply
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