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The result was no consensus. No consensus for a particular action has arisen from this discussion. North America ¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:10, 25 August 2016 (UTC) reply

John Henry Williams (baseball)

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I am quite surprised this article survived the first challenge. By the article's standard, every kid of a Baseball Hall of Famer is entitled to a Wikipedia page. To that I ask who is going to research Enos Slaughter's kids? This guy was basically chasing in his father's footsteps and, in doing so, failed at, even, that. Definitely not a Wikipedia entry — Preceding unsigned comment added by Razzanof ( talk • contribs) 23:32, July 15, 2016 (UTC)

• Keep - as discussed in the previous AfD (which should have been linked by the nominator), he meets WP:GNG. Rlendog ( talk) 00:28, 18 July 2016 (UTC) reply
• Marginal, redirect to father's article - by far the most notable thing about him is the cryonics kerfuffle over his father, which could do just as well there. Does he meet our standards for baseball players? - David Gerard ( talk) 09:02, 24 July 2016 (UTC) reply

I don't think he was notable solely as a baseball player, but as was discussed in the previous AfD, he received substantial coverage for a variety of issues, including his baseball career and the cryonic kerfuffle, e.g., [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6], which would meet the general notability standard. Rlendog ( talk) 16:10, 24 July 2016 (UTC) reply

I don't know what " http://www4.whdh.com/features/articles/hank/H9/" is. His B Ref page does not count towards notability. The other coverage concerns the Alcor situation, and his obituary. How does that get him to GNG over WP:BIO1E? –  Muboshgu ( talk) 19:45, 3 August 2016 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. Rlendog ( talk) 16:24, 3 August 2016 (UTC) reply

• Weak keep I have to vote keep merely because the deletion rationale completely ignores what John Henry Williams is most famous for; the Alcor controversy, not his baseball career. I would consider deletion if someone were to make a stronger argument of WP:BLP1E if this is nominated for deletion again. –  Muboshgu ( talk) 16:37, 3 August 2016 (UTC) reply
  • He died in 2004, so not a BLP :-) I'd still be inclined to merge it to his father's article - David Gerard ( talk) 16:56, 3 August 2016 (UTC) reply
    • Yeah he died in 2004, but he was only really notable for the Alcor situation, so WP:BIO1E could still apply. I forgot to be clear on which "1E" to cite. –  Muboshgu ( talk) 19:38, 3 August 2016 (UTC) reply
• Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log ( step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2016 August 3. — ^{cyberbot I} _{Talk to my owner:Online} 16:50, 3 August 2016 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 19:00, 3 August 2016 (UTC) reply

• Delete Fails GNG. This page should be condensed into a short blurb on his father's page. - Bbny-wiki-editor ( talk) 19:15, 3 August 2016 (UTC) reply

• Keep His involvement in his father's cryonic suspension makes him notable. A very well-covered and well-documented situation. RonSigPi ( talk) 02:58, 21 August 2016 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.