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The result was delete. Sandstein 17:52, 10 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Promotionally-toned article where only one of the current sources (the Columbus Dispatch article
[1]) satisfies all three prongs of
WP:GNG as significant, independent, and reliably-sourced.
WP:BEFORE search finds many non-significant
WP:ROUTINE articles about business transactions and other ordinary course-of-business articles. There are some other, non-significant (chiefly reaction quotes in articles about other subjects) sources but the Dispatch article is the one that is significantly about the subject.
Eggishorn(talk)(contrib) 19:16, 20 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment Topics that get routine coverage in reliable sources satisfy GNG.
WP:ROUTINE is an event guideline.
Unscintillating (
talk) 21:06, 23 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 00:08, 27 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment As the chairman of a major university's board of trustees, I suspect that he'll have gotten coverage from actual reliable sources; trustees are generally picked from among individuals who are already prominent, and scholars often produce significant research on administrators and board members. I'm only commenting because I can't prove that my assertions are true of Wyler, but I doubt that a detailed and careful search would conclude with a determination of non-notability.
Nyttend (
talk) 04:34, 27 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Delete routine coverage also applies to people. The biographies of living people guidelines mean that we should have at least as strick guidelines for such people as for corporations. If Wyler was a corporation he would need meet notability guidelines, and nothing suggests he does as a person either.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 05:28, 27 December 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment I am new to editing and creating, etc. and tried to help here. Wyler has major coverage from many sources between being on the Board of Trustees, the Nascar team, and the Cincinatti Reds ownership. I guess I did not do a very good job of finding the best sources? I am looking for suggestions to source this properly so it is not deleted. I am trying to become a better editor. Thanks.
Jrayewrites (
talk) 02:33, 29 December 2017 (UTC)Jrayewritesreply
comment Being an MLB minority owner isn't grounds for notability nor is being a successful businessman. I don't see enough significant independent coverage to meet
WP:GNG. Jrayewrites may be correct about more coverage being out there, so I'm holding off voting to delete to give this article a chance to be improved.
Sandals1 (
talk) 17:07, 1 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment Determination of notability includes all sources of evidence, not just citations in the article, see
WP:ARTN and
WP:NEXIST.
Unscintillating (
talk) 18:53, 1 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Comment Here is the source in WP:BEFORE D1 for Google newspapers:
"Writing on the wall for Reds' Schott". The Southeast Missourian. April 5, 1999. Retrieved 2018-01-01. The most intriguing addition to Cinergy Field on opening day was a[n]...ad on the outfield wall...the name of Jeff Wyler and a listing of his five auto dealerships.
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 09:59, 3 January 2018 (UTC)reply
delete almost entirely local coverage of a successful businessman, and not particularly striking coverage at that.
Mangoe (
talk) 20:22, 3 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete -- a CEO of a nn company is almost always a notability fail, and this subject misses the mark. The article is full of puffery, as in: "it has grown to one of the country's 35 largest private dealership groups employing over 1,500 people and retailing over 40,000"! Promotional 'cruft and reads like a tribute page.
K.e.coffman (
talk) 05:43, 6 January 2018 (UTC)reply
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