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The result was delete. Drmies ( talk) 12:01, 14 July 2017 (UTC) reply

Jasmine Dawda

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Non-notable former model lacking in-depth, non-trivial support. reddogsix ( talk) 22:14, 6 July 2017 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 02:45, 7 July 2017 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 02:46, 7 July 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per nom. Performed WP:BEFORE found nothing on Google News. Most of the refs cited fails WP:RS. No in-depth coverage except some passing mentions. No major achievement. Fails notability. --Elton-Rodrigues 15:06, 7 July 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elton-Rodrigues ( talk • contribs)
  • Keep Mr Elton-Rodrigues, I guess you didn't check google page 1 and Google page 2to see her what she's been up to, adverts she's been in and musics she remixed and those she featured in. Just that youtube links isn't allowed on wikipedia would have dropped them here for you to check it, you can search for her on youtube to check her Adverts and music features out.
Kindly let me know if there's anything I can do to save the page instead of trying to delete my first major contribution to the community, I spent a chunk of my time putting the page and references together. I need suggestion on how I can improve the page. Thanks. Mode9 ( talk) 11:10, 11 July 2017 (UTC) reply
Even Top editors like JamesBWatson Indicated at the page's Revision History that there are "claims of significance" to the page, so don't let us just push this to the Bin like that.....I have a target of 450-500 edits and at least 30 page and article creation before the end of December this year /D and maybe by next year hopefully I would be a Top editor with adminstrative responsibility like most you here. Editing wikipedia is kind of cool /D. Mode9 ( talk) 11:10, 11 July 2017 (UTC) reply
Comment - A claim of notability is just that, a claim. In this case it is a claim without adequate support. A claim has no bearing on the actual notability of the article. reddogsix ( talk) 16:58, 11 July 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete The sources here are either not reliable sources, or on the rare occasions when they may be in reliable sources they are interviews (I am not even sure the first source here is reliable) so they do not count towards independent coverage. Twitter and facebook, the leaders in the provided google search, are not reliable sources either. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 03:03, 11 July 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep DNA Newspaper and Rediff.com are reputed news sources in India. Deep articles in both the mentioned site make it pass notability.But some Clean up needed. BetterSmile:D 03:22, 11 July 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bettersmiley ( talk • contribs)
  • keep ever since the page was created it has been modified in over 32 time by different Editors (mostly Top/super editors)adding references, removing text without reference and so many other modification, so I think it pass to be on wikipedia.....Thanks Mode9 ( talk) 11:10, 11 July 2017 (UTC) reply
comment That has nothing to do with Notability BetterSmile:D 07:55, 11 July 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bettersmiley ( talk • contribs)
comment Definately but that shows the amount of improvement the page have gone through since creation. Mode9 ( talk) 11:10, 11 July 2017 (UTC) reply
  • I had not intended to take part in this discussion, as it seemed to me that the subject of the article was neither obviously notable nor obviously not notable, and I didn't have any particular opinion as to whether the article should be kept or not. However, Mode9, the creator of the article, posted a talk page comment asking me to look at it, so I have done so, and I will give my observations on the evidence of notability which has been provided.
  • Bettersmiley suggests we should keep the article because there are "Deep articles" in DNA Newspaper and Rediff. I am not sure what Bettersmiley means by "Deep articles", nor do I know enough about DNA Newspaper to assess to what extent it is a "reputed news source in India", but I do know enough about Rediff to know that much of its content is promotional. However, since Bettersmiley mentioned those two sources as evidence of notability, I had a look for them. There are two references to DNA. (There superficially appear to be four, but one of them appears three times, including once linking to a mirror site, giving a different URL.) One of them merely gives a brief quote from Jasmine Dawda. The other is written in the first person, evidently by Jasmine Dawda. The article has one reference to Rediff. It is a very brief interview, with a total of three questions, in effect an article by Jasmine Dawda but presented in the form of questions and answers. It is full of trivia such as where she bought her handbag from.
  • Mode9 suggests we should keep the article for the following reasons. (1) The Google search shows that she has appeared in advertisements and has remixed music. Mode9 links to the first two pages of hits. 14 of the 20 hits on the first two pages are Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, Linkedin, Instagram, Jasmine Dawda's own web site, vimeo, viyoutube, commons.wikimedia.org, plus.google.com, deletionpedia.org, and a page giving statistics for "jasmine dawda" on YouTube. None of those has the remotest value in establishing notability. The remaining six hits don't do much either: for example, they include a page where the full and complete text relating to Jasmine Dawda consists of the words "Jasmine Dawda"; it looks like a place holder for a possible page on her. Then there is a page on which the full text about her is "We first spotted Twinkle Khanna in high waisted pants at the Society Interior Awards, but it looked no where as great as it did on Jasmine Dawda at the party at ‘Wink’! How fabulous is that jeweled flower detail on her back? Agreed its a little risqué but she wears it really well…" (2) I declined an A7 speedy deletion on the grounds that there are claims of significance in the article. Reddogsix has answered that. (3) The article contributes to Mode9's target for number of article creations in the hope of becoming an administrator. This is not the place to explain why that is not a reason to keep an article. (4) It has been edited over 32 times.

As I said above, before Mode9 asked me to look in here I had no opinion on whether Jasmine Dawda satisfied Wikipedia's notability guidelines. I am now convinced that she doesn't. Delete. The editor who uses the pseudonym " JamesBWatson" ( talk) 13:34, 12 July 2017 (UTC) reply

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