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The result was keep. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 17:02, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
Jack Croft Baker
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Fails WP:POLITICIAN and WP:BIO Arthistorian1977 ( talk) 11:46, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. I don't see why this article has been AfDed. The man received a knighthood and a CBE. He has an entry in Who's Who and an obituary in The Times, all of which were cited in the article when this nomination was made. Not only based on precedent, but also on guidelines (WP:ANYBIO: "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times."), this person is notable and the article should not be deleted. — Noswall59 ( talk) 11:55, 8 January 2018 (UTC).
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- Keep. Typing his name into Google lights up hits in the National Archives and the London Gazette. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:24, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per Noswall59. The Drover's Wife ( talk) 17:49, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment: Could nom expand on why subject supposedly "Fails WP:POLITICIAN and WP:BIO"? Sam Sailor 18:13, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep An obituary in The Times is the gold standard and there's plenty more material to be found, e.g. Davis, Morris (February 1962), "British Public Relations: A Political Case Study", The Journal of Politics, 24 (1): 50–71, doi: 10.2307/2126737. Andrew D. ( talk) 18:33, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per Noswall59. Meets WP:ANYBIO(1) with a CBE. -- Enos733 ( talk) 07:14, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. The others have explained why. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiLuke1980 ( talk • contribs) 22:17, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. We have always considered that a CBE or higher passes WP:ANYBIO #1. Baker had a CBE and a knighthood (which is higher). And an obit in a national newspaper just adds to his notability. Clear pass of notability standards. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 14:46, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - Meets the notability guidelines and tons of sources. -- Dane talk 19:12, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
- Keep. A person who fails NPOL can still pass some other inclusion standard for some other reason — for example, a writer who wins a Pulitzer Prize, but then tries to run for political office and loses, gets kept as a notable writer rather than deleted as a non-notable politician. A CBE clears ANYBIO, and a knighthood even more so — this could definitely do with some additional referencing, so by all means flag it for {{ Refimprove}}, but not passing NPOL is irrelevant if he passes another SNG. Bearcat ( talk) 20:28, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
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