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The result was keep. MBisanz talk 01:13, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
Israel Maimon
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Almost entirely uncited and very promotional. Would be too much work to try to rescue, even if he is notable enough, which I doubt. WP:TNT applies, I think. Edwardx ( talk) 01:01, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
Delete Insufficient notability. Doctormatt ( talk) 07:12, 18 March 2022 (UTC)Per discussion below, article's subject appears probably sufficiently notable. Doctormatt ( talk) 07:31, 21 March 2022 (UTC)- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and Israel. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 01:32, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
- Comment. I added a reference from a newspaper in New Jersey. Eastmain ( talk • contribs) 01:37, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians, Law, and Military. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 01:43, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
- Comment. This may squeak for NBIO, given to RS SIGCOV newspaper pieces, but they, together with our article, reek of promotion/COI. Sigh. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:04, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. Each Government Secretary of Israel is notable. This is an extremely important position. For illustration, adding some lists of articles and articles on Maimon. Globes [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] This is a very selective list. There is tons more. WP:TNT does not apply as the article can easily be cleaned up. gidonb ( talk) 13:32, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Comment. If "Government Secretary of Israel" is "an extremely important position", one would expect there to be an article here. And it is not one of the many positions listed here the current Thirty-Sixth Government. Are there any English language sources? Edwardx ( talk) 14:18, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Great point,
Edwardx. This article is BADLY missing on Enwiki.
Hewiki has it. Each Government Secretary of Israel on Hewiki is notable and (but temps) has an article in Hewiki, a Wikipedia known for its tough standards! It also has a navigation template for this position.
gidonb (
talk) 17:00, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you,
gidonb. As you are fluent in both languages and have an interest in the subject, might I suggest that it could be helpful if you were to start
Government Secretary of Israel here on en.wikipedia? That way, we can better assess the notability of Maimon, especially if other holders of the post have an article on en.wiki. Otherwise, the Maimon article may well get deleted.
Edwardx (
talk) 18:25, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you,
Edwardx! I'll keep it in mind. Since Maimon also passes the
WP:GNG by the sources others and I provided, and he has held also other important positions, I'm not too worried about deletion. The comments above me implied what I spelled out. Articles should be judged by
WP:NEXIST. Maimon clearly passes the bar. But if I find time, I'll do it. It's a huge deficit of Enwiki.
gidonb (
talk) 18:39, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- OK, I made a quick beginning. Since, I reached the conclusion that Secretary of the Government (Israel) is a better name for the article. Secretaries of the government exist in additional countries. Maybe typical for countries with a former British dominance? Just a thought. The current president of Israel, Isaac Herzog, is the former Secretary of the Government. gidonb ( talk) 13:34, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you,
Edwardx! I'll keep it in mind. Since Maimon also passes the
WP:GNG by the sources others and I provided, and he has held also other important positions, I'm not too worried about deletion. The comments above me implied what I spelled out. Articles should be judged by
WP:NEXIST. Maimon clearly passes the bar. But if I find time, I'll do it. It's a huge deficit of Enwiki.
gidonb (
talk) 18:39, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you,
gidonb. As you are fluent in both languages and have an interest in the subject, might I suggest that it could be helpful if you were to start
Government Secretary of Israel here on en.wikipedia? That way, we can better assess the notability of Maimon, especially if other holders of the post have an article on en.wiki. Otherwise, the Maimon article may well get deleted.
Edwardx (
talk) 18:25, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Great point,
Edwardx. This article is BADLY missing on Enwiki.
Hewiki has it. Each Government Secretary of Israel on Hewiki is notable and (but temps) has an article in Hewiki, a Wikipedia known for its tough standards! It also has a navigation template for this position.
gidonb (
talk) 17:00, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - notable Puglia1999 ( talk) 23:53, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- Leaning keep. The office does appear to be a national government office along the lines of a chief of staff for the government, which would typically be a notable position for whoever holds it. BD2412 T 06:46, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Keep I am agree with Gidonb, also sufficient citations were provided by Gidonb. Brian O'Conner 07:03, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Strong Keep In the UK, such a person would be a Sir with something like really heavyweight CMG or KMG gong, making them automatically notable, so I think he is definitely notable. If the article references are not put in to verify the currenty content that is missing verification, I will do a copyedit on it, later tommorrow. scope_creep Talk 14:26, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
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