- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:58, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
Ilgın (given name)
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There are no articles about people with this name. Clarityfiend ( talk) 21:34, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the
list of Turkey-related deletion discussions.
Spiderone
(Talk to Spider) 22:28, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep: This is not a valid reason for deletion. Here it is in on Trwiki. Article is notable and could be translated to English. Kadı Message 18:46, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
- Rebuttal. A fencer who won a junior European championship does not satisfy WP:NSPORTS. Clarityfiend ( talk) 22:15, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
- There's one short article in something called Timeturk and one passing mention. That's far from good enough for GNG. See Category:Turkish female foil fencers, for example (though her specialty apparently is the sabre): all participated in the Olympics. She, on the other hand, shared a bronze medal in a satellite tournament of the 2014–15 Fencing World Cup. Clarityfiend ( talk) 23:07, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 ( talk) 01:22, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
- This fails as a list of people (empty list) and it fails as an encyclopaedic discussion of the name per se. The content consists only of its (unsourced) meaning in Turkish (the link to the town should be a "see also" at best). I'm all for having articles on names on Wikipedia, but in its current state this is in
WP:NOTDIC territory so a soft redirect to
wikt:Ilgın is a solution.
Spinning
Spark 10:28, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
I thought those types of redirects to other languages are discouraged, since the lack of a red link gives the impression that a en.WP article exists. H:FOREIGNLINK discusses using {{ interlanguage link}}.— Bagumba ( talk) 08:37, 28 May 2022 (UTC)- Wikt comment A Wiktionary link is a better alternative to keeping—I still prefer delete (see below)—but we don't fully meet the
WP:POINTWIKT policy either (bold for emphasis):
— Bagumba ( talk) 07:41, 1 June 2022 (UTC)For Wikipedia articles which could only ever be dictionary definitions and keep being re-created and re-deleted, or which could potentially be proper articles but are dictionary-like stubs at the moment, it is possible to effectively "salt" them with a soft redirect to Wiktionary
- Delete Without any en.WP bios of people with the name, this is not a standalone name lists, as allowed per
MOS:DABNAME and consistent with
WP:APO/S. As a pure article on the name, we need significant coverage, else this is a permastub. Per the guideline
WP:WHYN:
— Bagumba ( talk) 08:42, 28 May 2022 (UTC)We require "significant coverage" in reliable sources so that we can actually write a whole article, rather than half a paragraph or a definition of that topic. If only a few sentences could be written and supported by sources about the subject, that subject does not qualify for a separate page, but should instead be merged into an article about a larger topic or relevant list.
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 08:51, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. It doesn’t need to have articles about people with the name to be notable. It is referenced and can be expanded upon. Bookworm857158367 ( talk) 00:23, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
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