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The result was delete. Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 17:36, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
György Balázs
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He fails WP:GNG (lack of significant coverage in multiple reliable sources) and WP:NTENNIS (didn't qualify for a main draw of ATP, hasn't won a Challenger). He participated in Davis Cup, but that was removed from the NTENNIS notability guideline. In my searches I haven't been able to find much beyond passing mentions or directories/databases. If anything, I got more results for other people with the same name! Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 13:06, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Tennis, and Hungary. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 13:06, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete for failing GNG. All articles require some minimal GNG. He passes TennisProject Guidelines for suggested notability for having played in Davis Cup. This is often a pretty good indicator of notability, and non-English speaking players are under reported for this very reason. It's harder to find sources in Hungarian for this English Wikipedia version. Guidelines are meant to be flexible. In this case though, he did nothing else his entire career. He got into Davis Cup because there were no other players from Hungary with better rankings. He never played on the high-level ATP Tour. He tried a couple minor league tournaments but was crushed in every one of those. He stuck to the minor-minor leagues filled with high school and college youth, where he never won, and even making the final doesn't win you enough to cover your expenses. I can't find this player doing anything to warrant GNG other than losing to Andy Murray in a Davis Cup match. Fyunck(click) ( talk) 20:43, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep he met the WP:NTENNIS criteria, because he won one junior Grand Slam. Sczipo ( talk) 08:15, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sczipo The guideline says "Significant coverage is likely to exist for junior players", which it's not. The significant coverage still doesn't exist and is needed per WP:NSPORT/FAQ Q1. Jovanmilic97 ( talk) 11:19, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- Where does it say in the article he won a junior Grand Slam tournament? I searched for what was there not something else. Fyunck(click) ( talk) 18:01, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
Fyunck(click) It was on the External links. But if you want, I make a "Junior career" section. Jovanmilic97 the guidline say "Significant coverage is likely to exist for junior players if they have won at least a junior Grand Slam title" ;) Sczipo ( talk) 20:49, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- Okay, but that's not the part that's the problem, but the lack of significant coverage needed.
Jovanmilic97 (
talk) 20:57, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- What I was saying is that it's tough to just search for a name. He's not Federer. If you search domestic and foreign newspapers and press for a name and an accomplishment, like winning a Grand Slam tournament, it might be easier to find some coverage or interviews. In reading the article I didn't even know he won a Grand Slam tournament to refine my searching. Fyunck(click) ( talk) 22:06, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- Okay, but that's not the part that's the problem, but the lack of significant coverage needed.
Jovanmilic97 (
talk) 20:57, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, unless there's an article on the junior grand slam they won and they are mentioned there, then redirect. As pointed out, junior players need to pass
WP:GNG, and this one doesn't.
Onel5969
TT me 19:27, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- That's exactly correct. I did some checking and usually there are articles on a major junior champion. The trouble is he won the doubles junior championship at the 2003 French Open, not the singles championship. With something like doubles you'll either have to speak French to find the article or Hungarian to find an article there (if any exist). Fyunck(click) ( talk) 20:16, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete and redirect to Attila Balázs#Career; I have added a note to that section about their ITF doubles wins. BD2412 T 16:03, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: Fails GNG and BIO, N not inherited. BLP, none of the sources in the article is SIGCOV from IS RS addressing the subject directly and in-depth. Same for above and BEFORE; Likely is not a free pass, BLPs need clearly Ind RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth for both content and notabilty to avoid abuse.
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