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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 19:07, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
Grant Cardone
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IMO this person fails WP:GNG and WP:BIO. He just doesn't have the necessary coverage from Independent Reliable Sources. Out of the 19 references, most are not Reliable Sources (examples: Investopedia, an alumni magazine, a Scientology page, and the subject's own web pages). There are two Huffpost references but they are actually written by the subject. The Mercury News reference quotes him in connection with his house. There are a couple of articles that mention him in connection with sponsoring a Scientology car at NASCAR. That's it, as far as the article's references are concerned.
So, is he notable? His Amazon profile claims him as a "New York Times best selling author" and an "internationally renowned speaker", as well as "the Executive Producer and star of two reality TV shows". But the article does not mention those claims or provide any evidence for them. (The article started out in 2010 as a huge puff piece, but was quickly trimmed down to verifiable information.) He has written several books, apparently self-published; none have Wikipedia articles. One reality TV show, Turnaround King, is mentioned in the article; it apparently aired briefly (2 episodes) on the National Geographic Channel. I found one independent item about Cardone in a Google search: Village Voice. IMO he does not meet our inclusion criteria and the article should be deleted. MelanieN ( talk) 21:10, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
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- Delete. Inadequate evidence of notability. Rivertorch FIRE WATER 04:27, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete - no significant coverage. Neutrality talk 15:52, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
- Delete sales trainers are almost always non-notable, and no indication he is an exception. His career is the type where we get lots of PR sources, so we need to be vigilant in sorting out those with actual reliable source coverage. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 15:54, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
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- Delete - For background, Cardone is known to Scientology-watchers for being one of the shrinking number of big donors to the church. He's "popular" in this circle mainly for the over-the-top nature of his public persona and hyper-aggressive self-promotional style. This is covered at niche sites such as Tony Ortega's blog. That blog includes some good journalism along with a lot of commentary, but is not generally an RS for a BLP. Ortega also wrote the Village Voice article mentioned in the nom. None of this translates to meeting WP:NBIO, however. Grayfell ( talk) 02:09, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
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