Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Gheorghe_Pănculescu_(engineer) References

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Gheorghe Pănculescu (engineer)

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I think it's time to look more closely look at the references for this article. Most of the links are dead, so we can only take for granted what Ziare.com says about his role in the design of Eiffel Tower. I can't corroborate this information with any other source, it only comes up in marginal Romanian protochronistic sources that are also responsible for the false rumor that Eiffel tower was made with steel from Reșița. - Andrei ( talk) 12:21, 8 October 2014 (UTC) reply

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Comment. What about this book ? Razvan Socol ( talk) 11:56, 13 October 2014 (UTC) reply

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Comment [vote added below-- Larry/Traveling_Man ( talk) 00:32, 25 October 2014 (UTC)]. I have no idea if this is of any help. I looked at the dead links in the Wayback machine, then used Google translate, and had mixed success: reply

I found nothing good for the first link [1] -- well, nothing that actually brought up anything.
An old version of Ziare link was found here: [2]. It talks about the article subject.
The link to histmuseumph failed for the newest copies, but this one worked: [3]. The article seems to talk about Stănescu but not Pănculescu.
I didn't check out [4] because it's a blog, and I was too lazy.
The last link also was found in the Internet Archive: [5]. It at least mentions the article subject.

I have no idea if these articles provide the necessary information, nor if any of them pass as reliable sources. I have no more energy right now -- plus I know nothing about the subject -- but I'll try and figure it out later. Anyone who knows something about this area would be a big help! -- Larry/Traveling_Man ( talk) 04:01, 23 October 2014 (UTC) reply

Weak keep. After further fumbling around on Romanian and French sites, I'm left with the impression that he might be notable, but notability has not been proven. However, given the book cited by Razvan Socol, above, I'm inclined to give the article the benefit of the doubt. Is there anyone who can help with this? I could certainly be convinced to change my vote.

I spent a lot of time going around in circles, but never found further evidence of notability.
It would be good if someone were able to comment on the book referred to by Razvan Socol, above. I can't tell if the book is considered a reliable source. Based on the title (something like "Engineer George Panculescu - Legend and truth"), I'm guessing it provides in-depth coverage of the subject. I wasn't able to translate the text.
Additional sources I found were not reliable (blogs and such).
On one of the unreliable sources [6], there was a claim of a connection between Eiffel and Panculescu -- followed by a response (dated July 10, 2010) that Panculescu was not even mentioned in Eiffel's work, and which provided one hopelessly long citation, but which indirectly led me to a document called "Communication de M. Eiffel sur les travaux de fondation de la tour de 300 mètres" at this link [7]. This seems to be the document mentioned in the Wikipedia article. It's quite possible I missed it, but I didn't see Panculescu's name in that document. -- Larry/Traveling_Man ( talk) 00:32, 25 October 2014 (UTC) reply

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