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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 18:17, 31 July 2020 (UTC) reply

Fawn (musician)

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complete and total promotional nonsense and cruft, that it's impossibel to parse for whether she is actually notable or not, or what she is even notable for. A google search reveals nothing in the way of actual meaningful coverage and digging through newspaper archives also reveals nothing better. Praxidicae ( talk) 15:51, 24 July 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Lightburst ( talk) 16:05, 24 July 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Lightburst ( talk) 16:06, 24 July 2020 (UTC) t reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 17:12, 24 July 2020 (UTC) reply

• Weak keep. I've tried to remove some of the peacock terms, name dropping, IMDB refs, and promotional tone, but a lot more work needs to be done. Half the article looks like a CV at this point. If her songs did indeed chart on the Billboard charts, the subject would pass WP:SINGER criteria #2. Though this article is a mess and needs an overhaul, charting makes singers notable. -- Kbabej ( talk) 17:28, 24 July 2020 (UTC) reply

You're right if they did chart, she might be notable but they didn't and I can't find any sources to verify it, even through Billboard itself. The fact that there are no reliable sources is highly problematic, they're all interviews and self published stuff alongside press releases. I'm also not sure that "charting" anywhere at 149 is really anything of note... Praxidicae ( talk) 17:39, 24 July 2020 (UTC) reply

Hmm that's problematic if it can't be verified. The longer I look at this article the more needs to be gutted. The two obit sources on the article don't even mention the subject, and so much is non-verifiable. -- Kbabej ( talk) 17:42, 24 July 2020 (UTC) reply

In fact the only sources that say she is a "Billboard hit artist" are this press release from two weeks ago (and she definitely hasn't appeared in the last month let alone year) and her spotify, taken from iMDb which doesn't even identify what song supposedly charted. I have serious doubts about the veracity of her statements...and while we don't judge notability by followers/likes, her social media accounts give me the impression that she really isn't notable for an EDM artist... Praxidicae ( talk) 17:43, 24 July 2020 (UTC) reply

Thank you for taking the time to investigate that. Given there aren't any RS to support the claims, I will be striking my !vote above. -- Kbabej ( talk) 18:24, 24 July 2020 (UTC) reply

• Delete — no sufficient coverage in reliable sources to indicate notability. Celestina007 ( talk) 18:02, 24 July 2020 (UTC) reply
• Delete. The awards all are minor, mostly from minor publications and organizations. The chart claims are not supported by any reliable source and even so mainly are of dubious notability; the one thing that might convince me otherwise is the claim of reaching #6 on the Billboard Dance chart (although I cannot find independent verification of that).

If kept, this would need to really be cleaned up. The lengthy table of unnotable awards and catalog of unnotable compositions, for example. It really does not deserve anywhere near the level of promotional content that it has. (I'm mindful that AFD is not for cleanup; just noting post-AFD activity in the event it is kept.) TJRC ( talk) 18:26, 24 July 2020 (UTC) reply

• Delete. Unverifiable claims and dubious /minor awards do not add toward notability. If RS can't be found, this article should be deleted. Some of the sources don't even mention the subject (see the two obits). -- Kbabej ( talk) 18:30, 24 July 2020 (UTC) reply
• Delete per nom -- Devokewater @ 10:59, 25 July 2020 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.