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The result was keep.
Missvain (
talk) 00:41, 4 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep – I don't see what makes the subject any different from any other
Assistant Secretary of State for Educational and Cultural Affairs who has an article. What's more, I can find news articles in a Google search from 2012 to 2017 that could help expand the article in question to fill in her time as an assistant secretary of state. Jay Coop·Talk·Contributions 22:55, 27 November 2020 (UTC)reply
JayCoop, (1) Do you mean Keep? (2) What makes her different from the other people in that list is that there does not appear to be
WP:SIGCOV of her, whereas there may be SIGCOV of those other people. See also
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. If you are able to find SIGCOV of her, please post it. All I can see are articles mentioning her in the context of discussing
Antony Blinken, such as
[1].
AleatoryPonderings (
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!!!) 23:18, 27 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep. I didn't do a huge amount of searching but what I did find (and what is already cited in the article) seems to point to there being stuff out there. As for whether everything in the context of Blinken,
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/transition-playbook/2020/11/20/biden-rewards-loyalty-791808 is one I quickly found which, although it only has one sentence, mentions her without reference to Blinken. It would probably take a fair bit of digging to get super deep into
WP:SIGCOV, but the mere fact that there are a lot of sources you'd have to consult is a good sign in terms of notability.
Kingdon (
talk) 00:12, 29 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Well, OK, I guess I retract the last part in accordance with
WP:LOTSOFSOURCES, so feel free to take my non-vote with a suitable amount of salt especially if someone has spent more time looking through the sources than I have.
Kingdon (
talk) 00:19, 29 November 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep Though most of the coverage I'm seeing is in relation to here husband, there is some significant sources for her, such as
[2][3]. ~EDDY(
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The first source is an event announcement and the second is an interview in a trade journal. We now have three keep !votes, none of which has provided any sources from which a biography could be usefully constructed.
AleatoryPonderings (
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!!!) 17:03, 1 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Both of these sources could be useful to write a biography. ~EDDY(
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No, they are both primary sources, which are not evidence of notability. As apparently is the wedding announcement, since it is unsigned and hence probably provided by Ryan and Blinken themselves.
AleatoryPonderings (
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!!!) 02:35, 3 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep for many, many reasons. You can ask me them if you’d like.
Just Piping In (
talk) 17:19, 1 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete The sourcing is routine, and I'm not sure any of these people who have served in this position are automatically notable, especially looking at their bio - might be time for a cull.
SportingFlyerT·C 23:12, 1 December 2020 (UTC)reply
@
SportingFlyer:, I understand your point, but I was adding an additional perspective to the above Keeps. As for my point it's a {{current}}.
IZAK (
talk) 00:09, 2 December 2020 (UTC)reply
IZAK, please read
WP:BASIC. Being one-half of prominent example of interfaith marriage does in no way guarantee that Evan herself is notable. We cannot base a biography on a marriage announcement.
AleatoryPonderings (
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!!!) 00:24, 2 December 2020 (UTC)reply
AleatoryPonderings I see what you are saying, but interfaith marriage is now a distinctive feature of the impending Biden era and she and Blinken, just as Jewish
Doug Emhoff has an article that goes with his spouse Kamala Harris, and notably historically Biden's three kids married to Jewish spouses. If it's not notable, it certainly is from the point of view of
Interfaith marriage in Christianity/
Interfaith marriage in Judaism. But I agree with you, this is not the main reason for making anyone notable on WP.
IZAK (
talk) 02:54, 2 December 2020 (UTC)reply
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