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The result was redirect to Bernie Sanders#Early life. (non-admin closure) b uidh e 02:15, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Elias Sanders
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No notability or accomplishments whatsoever. Notability is not inherited. Kbabej ( talk) 16:08, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. Kbabej ( talk) 16:44, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. Kbabej ( talk) 16:47, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete close relatives of notable people do not become notable for that fact. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 18:21, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Notability is not a matter of your relatives or accomplishments; it's a matter of sourcing per the
WP:GNG. We have detailed sources about the life of the subject and so they pass
WP:BASIC.
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talk) 18:57, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Care to discuss which sources, and what to they say? It's enough to tell is '4 paragraphs on page 7 of source XYZ', no need to cite in detail. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:15, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete notability isn't inherited, and Elias doesn't seem to be noted for anything of his own merit (i.e. outside of family affiliations). Furthermore, aside from a routine burial posting at Find a Grave (which doesn't even offer a cumulative paragraph of coverage), the only third party references used that specifically focus on him (not just pieces on his sons or their commentary on him) are questionable ( Bustle, Notes from Poland) or subpar ( Heavy.com). This site already has previously given too much lenience to articles on relatives of politicians, and keeping this page would only worsen that. SNUGGUMS ( talk / edits) 19:32, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Merge to article about his notable son/politician. But I don't see what makes him notable on its own. WP:NOTINHERITED. He had a normal, non-encyclopedic life, and no source even discusses him in detail relevant to the life of his son. PS. A possible solution is to have an article about the early life of Bernie where this redirects. Consider: father of Pope JP2 redirects to Early life of Pope John Paul II. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:18, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete/merge All coverage is in the context of Bernie and inherited, not independently notable. Reywas92 Talk 18:58, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- Delete/merge per WP:NOTINHERITED. Best, GPL93 ( talk) 15:34, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
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