Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Duke_of_Avezzano References

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The result was delete. -- Tavix ^(
talk) 00:31, 31 August 2016 (UTC) reply

Duke of Avezzano

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I'm a Wikipedian from Italy. There are no historical documents that demonstrate that a Duchy of Avezzano ever esisted; plus the article presents inconsistent information (it reads that the Duchy of Avezzano is a noble title of the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies but was established... by the Pope Pius X who was sovereign of the Papal States). Nor is true that such title was kept after the incorporation of the Two Sicilies in the newformed Kingdom of Italy. Rather, the Savoia created the title of Duke of Abruzzi for the first cousin of King Victor Emanuel III. This article sounds like a hoax. -- SERGIO aka the Black Cat 21:06, 23 August 2016 (UTC) reply

Delete I'm a girl from Avezzano. This page is not serious. -- Marica Massaro ( talk) 21:37, 23 August 2016 (UTC) reply
I've informed some projects just to be sure but I think we can delete as well. "Duca di Avezzano" also fails the "google test".-- Alexmar983 ( talk) 22:59, 23 August 2016 (UTC) reply

Also the article could be included in Wikipedia:List_of_hoaxes_on_Wikipedia, and there are 3-4 minor edits of the creator that should be checked. If User:Dax11Koy does not show up, we might considering blocking him.-- Alexmar983 ( talk) 23:05, 23 August 2016 (UTC) reply

Delete On the face of it, the article looks reasonably well sourced to multiple offline sources. But the placement of the footnotes suggest these sources confirm facts tangential to whether the Duchy actually existed. For example, the only online source confirms that King Ferdinand was King. I can't find anything online to support the existence of the subject (but admit I cannot read Italian). AtHomeIn神戸 ( talk) 02:32, 24 August 2016 (UTC) reply
Delete. This is a hoax. Searching for the two words, Iezzi and Avezzano produces no results on Questia or Project Muse. Searching for Duke of Avezzano turns up nothing as well. I have seen a few hoaxes where citations are given to actual books, but if you can track them down, you find that they don't support the facts in the article. I give no weight to these citations. Since the relevant combination of words does not show up in Google, Questia or Project Muse, and surely it would a few times if the title has existed for as many years as alleged, I think it must be hoax. Also, technically, notability can not be independently verified - which raises suspicion and supports deletion. Speedy deletion even seems proper here now that the comments of several editors confirm the nature of this article (hoax). Donner60 ( talk) 23:14, 24 August 2016 (UTC) Clarifying edit/addition to this comment has been made to remove "likely", note hoax has been established and even speedy deletion now justified. Donner60 ( talk) 06:00, 26 August 2016 (UTC) reply

Comment. I have removed three hoax edits by the creator of this page to three other articles and left three warning messages. For some reason, the user deleted a hoax addition to a fourth article. I have added the (possible) hoax template to the article. In view of the fact that the creator of the article created a hoax, the creator was not in good faith. Therefore, a notice of this AfD to the user is not required even as a courtesy as I read the AfD guidelines. I suspect we will have seen the last of this user, at least under this user name. Donner60 ( talk) 05:50, 26 August 2016 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 13:07, 25 August 2016 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 13:07, 25 August 2016 (UTC) reply

(cheeky)Comment, was also thinking of adding this to the "Fictional elements" afd list.... Coolabahapple ( talk) 13:21, 25 August 2016 (UTC) reply
Delete, looks like a hoax, no mention of this in italian wikipedia - [1], nothing at Avezzano or any other articles, a gsearch [2] brings up nothing (there are/have been other dukes associated with avezzano but not this title). Coolabahapple ( talk) 14:29, 25 August 2016 (UTC) reply
Delete as a hoax. Zero sources on the key phrase "Duca di Avezzano". — Sam Sailor 14:52, 26 August 2016 (UTC) reply
Delete, complete hoax: a title actually exists of Duca degli Abruzzi (Duke of Abruzzo), and it is an appanage of the House of Savoy, which in 1849 was fighting at the same time both against the Pope and the King of the two Sicilies, who were separate entities with no space for the hypothesis of the pope giving away titles of another state. Moreover, since Avezzano is a town in the region of Abruzzi, there simply cannot exist a duchy inside another duchy. And there are no sources at all. Well done, but totally a hoax :-) -- g ( talk) 09:38, 27 August 2016 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.