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The result was delete. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 19:43, 12 October 2020 (UTC) reply

David Lawler

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Fails WP:BASIC and WP:ANYBIO. This article came through the Articles for Creation process so I hesitated to nominate it, even though it reads like a press release and indeed is sourced entirely to brief articles in newspapers and trade organs picking up BP press releases generated when Mr. Lawler rose to his present position. There is NO "significant coverage." I assume that if there was, the article creator, a BP public relations person, would have cited it. Perhaps someday BP public relations will work real hard and there will be significant coverage. Until then this article should be either deleted or merged into BP. Coretheapple ( talk) 19:00, 5 October 2020 (UTC) reply

• Delete per my nom. I just wanted to add to my nomination that Mr. Lawler's current position as head of a BP subsidiary does not in and of itself justify an article, under our notability guidelines. I looked diligently for such a provision without success. If I am wrong, kindly advise and I will happily withdraw this nomination. A review of other CEO AfDs fails to see any such guideline cited. Maybe we should have one (I would not be in favor), but we don't. It also bears mentioning that BP America, which he heads, does not have a standalone article. Coretheapple ( talk) 19:06, 5 October 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 11:00, 6 October 2020 (UTC) reply

• Delete a non-notable engineer and businessman. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 13:37, 7 October 2020 (UTC) reply
• Delete. The CEO of BP has a BLP, but Lawler is the president of BLP America. There aren't many sources, and they don't say much. I can't find any independent RS (there may be one in the article but I can't read it). I thought Arturo at BP had agreed to stop writing drafts for BP, and to make suggestions on talk instead, but perhaps I misunderstood. The problem with his drafting BP bios is that he and/or his colleagues have helped to create the sources, most of which (all but one) appear to be based on BP press releases. If that is correct, this article would be BP's creation in just about every sense. SarahSV ^(talk) 02:10, 11 October 2020 (UTC) reply

I worked at the BP article as well and was quite surprised to see that Arturo had submitted this article. As I said on my WP editor page years ago, one of my major concerns is that corporate America would find a way to weasel into controlling their WP articles. Best to not set a president here. Gandydancer ( talk) 18:04, 11 October 2020 (UTC) reply

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