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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 21:39, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Danielle Judovits
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Very poorly referenced biography; I looked for good references to save the article but found very little, mostly PR blurbs based on agency representation. Binksternet ( talk) 17:43, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
- Judovits voiced Batgirl for three seasons, but this fact is only mentioned in passing in this book source. There is no in-depth discussion of her career. Binksternet ( talk) 17:46, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - Let this page stay. She is a good voice actor and has done other roles like the ones that she did in The Batman and Naruto. -- Rtkat3 ( talk) 17:59, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
- Delete The debate isn't about whether she is any good. The debate is about whether she is notable and mentioned in reliable sources. Padillah ( talk) 19:35, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
- Delete as no evidence of notability. – Davey2010 • (talk) 20:27, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 00:36, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
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- Keep Clearly passes WP:ENTERTAINER. She has had significant roles in notable series, such as TenTen in Naruto, Shadowcat in an X-men cartoon, Batgirl in a Batman cartoon, etc. Dream Focus 00:46, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. -- Dream Focus 00:49, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
- Delete Her roles have either been dubbing-only or not major characters. Bensci54 ( talk) 05:50, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:ENTERTAINER. VMS Mosaic ( talk) 12:30, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
- Delete The GNG is the real basis, and she clearly does not pass this. I think there is too broad an interpretation of "notable roles" in "notable works" if she is seen to pass that guideline. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 03:34, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- Delete A review of the roles described as "signficant" does not convince me that they are, and so WP:ENT #1 is plainly not met.
WP:GNG is plainly not met, and once again, the issues with the current implementation of
WP:ENT #1 are laid bare. In addition to the non-primary language dub comments, digging through the dozens of roles listed at
List of Naruto characters, for example, we find that this character of the many dozen protagonists, "receives the least amount of screen time in the series." --
j⚛e decker
talk 00:47, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
- Naruto has 220 episodes for the first anime and 366 for the second. Check out this list here [1] showing different story arcs she was seen in, and to what extent. And these are professional voice actors, not dubbers in notable shows like that. As for her role in the X-men cartoon, Shadowcat was a major character seen in every episode. The Batman cartoon at The_Batman_(TV_series) list season three and four as having Batgirl in them, and you click on the links to those seasons and search for "Batgirl" you can see how many episodes she appeared in. Dream Focus 01:27, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
- Shadowcat was in Wolverine and the X-men, and while ten or more characters had merchandise produced representing them, Shadowcat was not among them, whcih seems to undercut your argument, mindful though I am that the omission of her and other female characters may also reflect sexism in the industry. While this is less weak than your claim of significance for Tenten, it still doesn't seem to meet the bar of significance for me, or for many of the suggested indicators of significance being discussed in the current ENT 1 RfC, e.g., the opening credits test. Batgirl is, without a doubt, your strongest case for a signficant role, weakened only by the fact that she was more or less dropped for s5. In any case, Batgirl can't prop up ENT #1 by herself. (If her role at Batgirl really turns out to be, in the community's consensus, the only signficant role she's had, a redirect would, of course, be a valid alternative to deletion.) Sadly, the general notability guideline isn't met, which I still take very seriously for living people. --
j⚛e decker
talk 16:22, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
- She has ample merchandise already. She had voice roles in 14 episodes of the 26 episodes of that series. [2] Anyway, no matter how many of her many roles are proven notable, it doesn't matter to you, you still ignoring ENTERTAINER apparently. As for as the GNG is concerned, she has done interviews in places. [3] Dream Focus 20:47, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
- Shadowcat was in Wolverine and the X-men, and while ten or more characters had merchandise produced representing them, Shadowcat was not among them, whcih seems to undercut your argument, mindful though I am that the omission of her and other female characters may also reflect sexism in the industry. While this is less weak than your claim of significance for Tenten, it still doesn't seem to meet the bar of significance for me, or for many of the suggested indicators of significance being discussed in the current ENT 1 RfC, e.g., the opening credits test. Batgirl is, without a doubt, your strongest case for a signficant role, weakened only by the fact that she was more or less dropped for s5. In any case, Batgirl can't prop up ENT #1 by herself. (If her role at Batgirl really turns out to be, in the community's consensus, the only signficant role she's had, a redirect would, of course, be a valid alternative to deletion.) Sadly, the general notability guideline isn't met, which I still take very seriously for living people. --
j⚛e decker
talk 16:22, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
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