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The result was delete. Barkeep49 ( talk) 02:28, 11 November 2020 (UTC) reply

Dandy Jackson Chukwudi

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Fails WP:NBIO. Top 10 or 100 lists are poor evidence of notability, especially when the websites seem far from authoritative. There is also no indication that the subject's social media platform is notable in itself. SuperMarioMan ( Talk) 23:33, 2 November 2020 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete - The sources are not reliable and a few, such as "Mr. Reliable", appear to be sponsored or user-generated. I searched for sources and found nothing. Magnolia677 ( talk) 23:53, 2 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - Also unable to find anything that would establish notability, or evidence that the included sources have any sort of credibility. It's worth noting that this same page was speedy deleted less than 48 hours ago. — {Canuck lehead} 00:05, 3 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Speedy delete - Fails quick Google News search, so fails WP:GNG. Appears to be a youngster trying to self-promote. On that basis, it should probably be speedied. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 00:09, 3 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete feels like toosoon to me. Balle010 ( talk) 05:55, 3 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Objecting? Shouldn't we like try and see [ [1]]?, if you were to be Nigerians, you would have heard about him or something... And about deleting the page 48 hours ago, it was a premature article then. 𝐂𝐡𝐮𝐤𝐬𝐉𝐃 O_o ChuksJD ( talk) ( Contribs) 07:09, 3 November 2020 (UTC) reply
@ ChuksJD: There are obvious username similarities between your account and the subject of the article, are you familiar with our conflict of interest policies, specifically the ones on creating autobiographies? 192.76.8.82 ( talk) 09:47, 3 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • This isn't my first time of making biographies or articles. Similarity in name doesn't mean I'm the one (hope it ain't what you're thinking), I only appeal y’ll check well. 𝐂𝐡𝐮𝐤𝐬𝐉𝐃 O_o ChuksJD ( talk) ( Contribs) 17:33, 3 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • @ ChuksJD: Hmm, you declared a conflict of interest with InstaNovella, a site purported to be created by Dandy Jackson Chukwudi, you've adopted his name, yet we are supposed to not think you're him. Got it. Here's the thing, while you've created other articles, you seem unaware about our General Notability Guideline, which says that subjects are generally considered notable if the subject has received significant (i.e. in-depth) coverage in reliable sources (major mainstream sources like newspapers and magazines) that are independent of the subject (no blogs, no interviews, no user-generated websites, etc.) You haven't demonstrated that this person (who is not you) has met this basic requirement, and pasting a link to a Google search doesn't help in any way, since all of the search results point to sites that are of no use to us: Facebook, LinkdIn, Crunchbase, blogs, etc. Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 18:39, 3 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Bro... That was my first article, if you check, I told Davidwr that it was a mistake. I was just new to the ‘system’ then. No one in his senses would declare that he is making an article for himself or his website knowing fully well it was against the wikipedia rules, would there? I doubt so. C'mon man! You should know better. This should be over with. If he ain't ‘notable’ YET then having a stub should be better than deleting completely. Jackson is one of the enterpreneurs who has helped in creating employment in my state! (I'm not telling you this to change your mind... You've once blocked me for doing nothing anyways) I'm telling you this so that you don't have to be so strict on me cuz I'm African or cuz we have ‘similarity in names’, I'm telling you cuz good works should be appreciated. The only primary citation was the one I got [ [2]]. Every other citation was secondary. You know this... You're an admin and a human... You should know what's right by now. (Please discard my errors: [ if any ]) 𝐂𝐡𝐮𝐤𝐬𝐉𝐃 O_o ChuksJD ( talk) ( Contribs) 18:55, 3 November 2020 (UTC) reply
C'mon man! Magnolia677 ( talk) 19:45, 3 November 2020 (UTC) reply
@ ChuksJD: You have no connection to instanovella, but you are in a position where you can give away copyright permission for their logo [3] and have written a draft article in your sandbox [4]?
Per WP:TOOSOON we don't create articles on people who might gain notability one day, both due to our notability guidelines and due to WP:BLP. If the subject of the article isn't covered in high quality sources it is impossible to validate the content of the article, meaning it would be impossible to figure out what information is correct and what is made up.
The Instanovella link isn't the only one that is primary, the vangard community article was written by a user called Yellow alligator, who claims to be a blogger and gives their website as instanovella.com, so that is also primary [5]. That leaves us with 2 mentions in list websites and an unreliable review website, hardly enough coverage to write a biography!
You're clearly enthusiastic about writing, so I'd ask that you spend a couple of hours reading the conflict of interest guidelines at WP:COI, the general notability guideline at WP:GNG, and the reliable sources guidelines at WP:RS, and bear them in mind for your future editing. 192.76.8.82 ( talk) 20:19, 3 November 2020 (UTC) reply
@ 192.76.8.82: Brother/Sister... Yellow Alligator or whoever he is, I do not know him. I only used the article as a citation. The other websites I used for citations are Nigerian website. They (the websites) don't have any wikipage but they're still a source of information for most Nigerians and I think it makes it notable (isn't it? Correct me if I'm wrong please). Chukwuma Jaatochukwu Dennis is my actual name ( for those who wanna know). I am not associated with InstaNovella. I made a bio here which the image I used was deleted also. I also told them I'm the owner of the image (I try to make/get images for my articles using PixelLab if needed), but it was still deleted. Their logo is different from mine if you check very well. And making a draft is a soon? I made drafts before moving them to the mainspace, I guess I'm off from that shackle too. 𝐂𝐡𝐮𝐤𝐬𝐉𝐃 O_o ChuksJD ( talk) ( Contribs) 21:39, 3 November 2020 (UTC) reply
@ ChuksJD:Look, you're not in trouble and you're not going to get banned, there's no need to panic. Everyone writes articles that get deleted, and everyone will have committed a wikipedia social faux pas at some point, even jimmy wales was caught editing his own page. Creating articles as drafts is absolutely the right thing to do, but if you're finding that a lot of them are getting deleted I would suggest that you spend a bit of time reviewing the policies I suggested above.
To answer your question "does that website show that Chukwudi is notable" the answer is no. Have a read of the general notability guideline WP:GNG. It states that "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list."
  • Significant means that the source must cover the subject in detail, e.g. a mention in a list would not be substantial, a newspaper printing a story about Chukwudi would be.
  • Reliable means that the source can be relied upon to be true. A TV news report that has gone through an entire team of journalists and editors would normally be reliable, a facebook post written by a random person would not be.
  • Independent means that the source should have as little connection as possible to the subject, a journalist writing an article on a company would be independent, an interview with it's founder would not be.
Also note Sources is plural - we need more than 1 source to show notability.
Any source must meet all three conditions to count towards showing notability. looking specifically at the website:
  • It is significant, since it contains a detailed account of the Subject's life.
  • It is not reliable, as it is user generated content and anyone could have written it. If his name was misspelled or a date wrong would the website owners fix it? Probably not.
  • It is not independent, as it appears to have been written by the subject himself.
I hope this helps, as I said take a bit of time to read and understand the policies here, and you'll find you have a much better time editing. 192.76.8.82 ( talk) 23:32, 3 November 2020 (UTC) reply
P.S. "Their logo is different from mine if you check very well"???
@ ChuksJD, what you may be looking for are good or reliable Nigerian sources that have a reputation for fact-checking & have editorial oversight. it’s too many things I’m juggling both on & off-wiki if not I should have created a list of Nigerian reliable sources so editors unfamiliar with Nigerian RS could easily check it out. Few examples would be; The Punch, Nigerian tribune, The Sun, Nigerian Guardian id make a comprehensive list sometime in the future. Celestina007 ( talk) 22:59, 8 November 2020 (UTC) reply
Oh. Thank you for proper details... In essence, all the others are invalid. 𝐂𝐡𝐮𝐤𝐬𝐉𝐃 ❑❑❑❑ • 𝐭𝐚𝐥𝐤 • 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐬 • 𝐬𝐞𝐧𝐝 𝐦𝐚𝐢𝐥 23:02, 8 November 2020 (UTC) reply
@ ChuksJD, I just gave you archetype examples of tested & trusted Nigerian reliable sources but aren’t limited to the aforementioned Nigerian RS. When determining a reliable source, you should checkout if they have a reputation for fact checking, have editorial oversight, declare outrightly when an article is sponsored or written by a guest editor. If you read WP:RS, a portion there aids you in identifying reliable sources. I think for a more detailed explanation you should meticulously read that. Celestina007 ( talk) 23:15, 8 November 2020 (UTC) reply
Alright. Thanks for the clarification. 𝐂𝐡𝐮𝐤𝐬𝐉𝐃 ❑❑❑❑ • 𝐭𝐚𝐥𝐤 • 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐬 • 𝐬𝐞𝐧𝐝 𝐦𝐚𝐢𝐥 23:20, 8 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per WP:TOOSOON - I don't see how this very young person has done enough yet. If somebody is legitimately notable from Nigeria or India or Argentina, and they have sources which we know are reliable, I'll support its inclusion. Bearian ( talk) 21:17, 9 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete fails WP:GNG and a case of WP:TOOSOON. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 23:01, 9 November 2020 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per the arguments made above. ─ The Aafī ( talk) 18:36, 10 November 2020 (UTC) reply
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