- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep. There is consensus below that the sources discussed are sufficient to establish notability under the GNG. Eluchil404 ( talk) 00:23, 31 January 2024 (UTC)( non-admin closure)
Curtis Hamilton (American football)
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Restored PROD from 2020. I agree with the PROD's rationale: Fails WP:ANYBIO, WP:NGRIDIRON, WP:NCOLLATH, and WP:NACTOR. Draftifying is an acceptable WP:ATD. - UtherSRG (talk) 00:27, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Actors and filmmakers, Sportspeople, United States of America, and Kentucky. UtherSRG (talk) 00:27, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom/above. BLP, fails GNG and NBIO. Sources found are all routine mill news, name mentions, listings, nothing that meets WP:IS WP:RS with WP:SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth. //
Timothy ::
talk 02:09, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- @ TimothyBlue: Many of the below stories cover Hamilton directly and in-depth. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 03:24, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Note that Hamilton is covered extensively in
The Park City Daily News, see for example
here (
p2),
here,
here,
here,
here,
here,
here, and
here, plus a story from
The Courier-Journal
here.
BeanieFan11 (
talk) 03:23, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- I think these are a combination of routine mill news and interviews. All seem to depend on the subject and/or David Elson as a source, so I think there is an issue with WP:IS. //
Timothy ::
talk 03:58, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Sources like this are in-depth feature stories; the antithesis of "routine mill news". Almost all good sports reporting includes quotes from related people. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 19:07, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- I think these are a combination of routine mill news and interviews. All seem to depend on the subject and/or David Elson as a source, so I think there is an issue with WP:IS. //
Timothy ::
talk 03:58, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Passes GNG. Also,
here is another source.
~WikiOriginal-9~ (
talk) 15:10, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Interviews are not
WP:IS. -
UtherSRG
(talk) 15:23, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- That depends on the reputation of the source, really. This is a daily newspaper from the third most populous city in Kentucky. That is enough independence. Stefen Towers among the rest! Gab • Gruntwerk 18:17, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- While his quotes are not WP:IS, the prose of the article can be. Alvaldi ( talk) 18:55, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Interviews are not
WP:IS. -
UtherSRG
(talk) 15:23, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. The article misses his coming out as gay and all the coverage that got based on his standout attention on an MTV program. Google "curtis hamilton" "coming out". This isn't a strong keep, but in total, it appears he's gotten just enough coverage to make it. Stefen Towers among the rest! Gab • Gruntwerk 18:32, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Let'srun ( talk) 18:19, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Subject meets the WP:GNG with sources such as [ [1]] and [ [2]] Let'srun ( talk) 21:49, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as there is a fundamental disagreement on whether or not sources present in the article establish GNG. It would help if sources brought up in this discussion received more of a review by other editors. Right now though, I don't see suport for Deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:29, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - although many of the mentioned sources contain interview material, most of them also include factual prose. Besides, it's a real stretch to say that interviews published in reliable sources are definitionally non-independent - the guideline linked above ( WP:IS) only mentions interviews once, in an entirely different context. Hatman31 ( talk) 19:10, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.