The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was nomination withdrawn. ( non-admin closure) Steven (Editor) ( talk) 22:18, 7 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Cummings Elementary School

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Recently created disambiguation page of Cummings Elementary School - elementary schools are usually deemed non-notable and none of the schools on this list have articles. Also per MOS:DABRED, it says "Do not create red links to articles that are unlikely ever to be written, or are likely to be removed as insufficiently notable topics." Is this disambiguation page needed? Steven (Editor) ( talk) 18:43, 2 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Steven (Editor) ( talk) 18:43, 2 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. Shellwood ( talk) 18:55, 2 April 2020 (UTC) reply

• Keep - School guidelines say: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Schools/Article_advice.
  • "Non-notable school articles are generally blanked and redirected to the school district's article (USA)"
• Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Common_outcomes#Schools also states:
  • "Most elementary (primary) and middle schools that don't source a clear claim to notability usually get merged or redirected to the school district authority that operates them (generally North America)[...]"
• A non-notable school is supposed to redirect to its school district. But what happens when more than one school shares the same name? In fact there is no intention to write an article about any elementary school school here. The intention is to direct readers to the proper school district Wikipedia article which is to contain the relevant information about non-notable schools. Therefore we must make and keep disambiguation pages like this.
• WhisperToMe ( talk) 19:14, 2 April 2020 (UTC) reply
• Keep: if the names were unique, each would have a redirect. As they aren't, they need a dab page. I've tidied it up and added another one (Memphis). Pam D 15:40, 3 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Comment I see that my tidying away of comments in the dab page has been undone: I've never seen a dab page with such comments, as the entries in the blue linked pages should have sources to justify the presence of the school names in the lists on those pages. A dab page just points to where the topic is mentioned. I'm not going to get into an edit war, but other dab page geeks might care to have a look. Pam D 20:43, 3 April 2020 (UTC) reply

@ PamD: Oh, I see. I'm fine with a discussion over it! I felt that it was important to show proof/evidence in case people years down the line say "Oh, it's unsourced. How do we know it's the case?" I am aware schools often change names or close, and editors of a later generation may not take the time to verify/check for inclusion but just quickly remove entries they feel are unsourced. Maybe it's less tidy, but having proof somewhere will help editors unfamiliar with the people who wrote the page/made inclusions understand how and why it happened. An alternate solution is to store evidence in the talk page of the redirect. WhisperToMe ( talk) 21:13, 3 April 2020 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.