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The result was delete. Salvio giuliano 22:37, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
Chris Haver
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Contested PROD. As the nominator said: no real SIGCOV notability in regional/national RS; all RS due to his business activities (and not him). UtherSRG (talk) 22:48, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. UtherSRG (talk) 22:48, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. A WP:UPE blp (i.e. large article created in one single edit, with photo, and then the editor abandoned WP), that was very PROMO. I trimmed much of the puffery but I left the "America's Cup" section intact for comparison of how PROMO it was. I realized that all his refs are either local Arizona refs (in the AZCentral site), or are related to his business activities (i.e. America's Cup projects). I could not find a regional/national US quality RS that did a SIGCOV piece on him (i.e. he is not a notable figure in the regional/national US business community). Even the local Arizona RS is reporting about his business/investment-activities (he is a wealthy private equity investor), but never about him as a notable subject. It was PROD'ded but an IP (the UPE) asked for it to be refunded, but the refunding Admin immediately sent it to AfD. 78.18.228.191 ( talk) 01:38, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- I suspect that when you have looked at the recent edits of 98.171.86.98 ( talk · contribs) on this BLP (covering his 40th and 50th birthdays), there is going to be some WP:SALTing needed as well. 78.18.228.191 ( talk) 02:06, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Feels promotional, puffy wording, sourcing is tangential, mentioning him in relation to other things, no sources about him directly. Oaktree b ( talk) 02:13, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. Very promotional. Definitely zero notability in climbing world. 31.187.2.233 ( talk) 17:07, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- The earlier versions are extraordinarily promotional. I have a feeling we will see his BLP at AfD several times in the future (but deleted every time). 31.187.2.233 ( talk) 17:14, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 21:15, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - obvious UPE/COI editing with huge promotional overtones, even with all the work some editors have put in to trimming it down. Does not meet WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 21:28, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per above fails WP:GNG. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 23:54, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - I feel like I must repeat myself: first, substantively, he's just not notable; business executives are dime a dozen. Secondly, I am strongly opposed to paid biographies of marginally notable persons on Wikipedia. In 2007, that could have been excused, but in 2022, it's untenable to try to sneak in a social media page masquerading as an encyclopedia article. To be blunt, it's theft of our services. Salt, burn, TNT, ban, etc. Bearian ( talk) 15:08, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
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