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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  Sandstein  09:19, 22 December 2015 (UTC) How do we request a deletion review — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.35.178.225 ( talk) 19:26, 14 June 2016 (UTC) reply

Chos3n

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Unnotable musical group. Also, this article was created by the group itself, which has since been indeffed, and therefore this article has conflict of interest issues. Robert McClenon ( talk) 17:07, 28 November 2015 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Everymorning (talk) 17:23, 28 November 2015 (UTC) reply

keep Upon writing the original article which had absolutely no reference to the 'Chos3n' Band website or promotional or sales information - and having copied the page format for artists of the same achievements wiki format, we felt that this article would suffice given we had been nominated for two major UK music awards.

whilst Wikipedia seems to be comfortable with it's issue with Systemic Bias, ( I note the person most offended by the 'Chos3n'post is in dallas so therefore in probability has little knowledge of the UK Music Scene) - I am not comfortable with it's systemic Bias - could I therefore ask that the editor(s) who have any decision making on the page proposed deletion have some relative knowledge in the music industry outside of the U.S. or other interest in Urban music . I am glad that Wikipedia hires editors such as TheRedPenOfDoom who are a little more studied in Cultural diversity

[[User talk:Chos3n|< — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.140.67.187 ( talk) 10:57, 30 November 2015‎ (UTC) reply

81.140.67.187 ( talk · contribs) has only contributed to the article(s) under discussion for deletion and AFD. —  Jkudlick  t c s 04:14, 6 December 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Draft or weak keep: I checked the band's website where there is a biography section. Maybe the creator of this article can consider on improving the article with info from that section. Otherwise maybe consider deleting and drafting the article. Vincent60030 ( talk) 08:36, 3 December 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Delete Fails notability guidelines. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 14:58, 3 December 2015 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —  Jkudlick  t c s 04:15, 6 December 2015 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. —  Jkudlick  t c s 04:17, 6 December 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: Hard to work out where I stand here; this article in its present form is clearly inadequate, but otoh I strongly agree with The Red Pen of Doom about a broader bias here (c.f. the article about a German-only Marillion 3-track single, which is more than a comparable Loose Ends release would be likely to get and also more than a lot of important songs in German-language pop music get). RobinCarmody ( talk) 03:00, 7 December 2015 (UTC) reply

either Mobo and Urban music awards are considered major awards or they are not. Criteria for musicians and ensembles: Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award. Can I suggest that if Mobo or UMA are not Major awards they would not have been allowed a page on your site. (Juliette Farrell - Chos3n) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.140.67.187 ( talk) 12:58, 7 December 2015 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 02:38, 13 December 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - Fails WP:NMUSIC and clearly doesn't pass GNG. The comment above about having a wikipage denoting whether an award is notable or not shows the individual clearly does not have a good grasp of what notability is on Wikipedia. Onel5969 TT me 12:45, 21 December 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Delete: It fails WP:NMUSIC. I copied it to Wikinfo so a copy of the article can still be found after deletion. -- stranger195 ( talkcontribsguest book) 07:33, 22 December 2015 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

I would like to request a deletion review, as there has been similar artists listed historically. I believe this is systemic bias due to the editors lack of musical knowledge in this field. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.140.67.187 ( talk) 12:17, 24 December 2015 (UTC) reply