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The result was redirect to Fixer Upper (TV series). King of ♠ 04:37, 10 January 2017 (UTC) reply

Chip Gaines

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Both Chip Gaines and Joanna Gaines are only notable for their show Fixer Upper (TV series). There is no reason for these pages to exist, everything can reside under the show page with a host section. See a similar AfD here Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tarek El Moussa. - Galatz Talk 03:58, 26 December 2016 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Galatz Talk 04:00, 26 December 2016 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. Galatz Talk 04:02, 26 December 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Keep I found the Chip Gaines article while going through BLP PRODs and contributed most of the content to it, and based the Joanna article on it as a something to build off of when there was more time and its not the holiday weekend. These individuals most certainly meet WP:NACTOR criteria #2 with a large fan base. They are the stars of one of the most popular shows on cable TV, have had a book on the NYT bestseller list for the past nine weeks including leading it in the number one spot for one week (displacing a Bill O'Reilly book) [1] [2], and have had media coverage of people paying a premium on AirBnB to live in houses renovated by them [3]. The book also qualifies them for under inclusion under WP:NAUTHOR #3 as a well known work with multiple periodical articles and reviews [4] [5] [6]. Combine the recent negative press they've received with the above, they meet WP:GNG easily even if you disagree with the subjective nature of the wording of the subject notability guidelines. TonyBallioni ( talk) 05:01, 26 December 2016 (UTC) reply
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Adding Joanna Gaines links for completeness. -- Finngall talk 18:05, 27 December 2016 (UTC) reply
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  • Comment. "everything can reside under the show page with a host section" appears to be suggesting a merge rather than deletion. in which case this should be closed and a merge discussion started. -- Michig ( talk) 09:34, 26 December 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Redirect both to article on the show. While the attack on them for the statements by their minister is a bit unrelated to the show, it can still be covered in that article. There is really only one notable thing, their TV show, so there is no need for 3 articles. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 20:07, 26 December 2016 (UTC) reply
I would agree for most people notable for one HGTV show, but the reason I stepped in on the BLP PROD was because WP:NACTOR #2 screams like it applies here to me. They launched a #1 NYT Bestseller based on their personalities from the show, people are intentionally vacationing in Airbnbs designed by them, and People Magazine running a cover story on them (not to mention the too many to name fluff pieces in the gossip and entertainment magazines about them). Top that with them being the stars of what is arguably the most popular non-news show on cable [7]. If they don't qualify as having a "large fan base or cult following" I don't know what would. That's all in addition to the notability from the book and the controversy. TonyBallioni ( talk) 00:08, 27 December 2016 (UTC) reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Note that two articles are nominated for deletion herein. North America 1000 04:05, 3 January 2017 (UTC) reply
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 04:05, 3 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Redirect both to Fixer Upper (TV series); the fact that ppl vacation in Airbnbs designed by the subjects could be just as well covered in the show article. The minor religious controversy is trivia and does not need to be covered in the encyclopedia. K.e.coffman ( talk) 01:30, 8 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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