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keep As far what I know, one of the criteria for NPOL is to win a significant election. But it doesn't say that loosing an election will make one ineligible for Wikipedia. Also, in light of last AfD discussions, it was well established that the subject passes GNG.
Cirton (
talk) — Preceding
undated comment added 07:45, 1 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep As noted in
WP:NPOL, "[an] unelected candidate for political office [..] can still be notable if they meet the general notability guideline". I believe the references in the article clearly demonstrate the existence of
WP:SIGCOV, so I suppose the only question is whether this is a case of
WP:BIO1E. This, however, was already a topic of discussion in the previous AfD which resulted in keep. While consensus can certainly change, I think any BIO1E argument would be further hindered by the subject's second candidacy following the previous AfD. Let me know if I'm missing some relevant policy. -
Ljleppan (
talk) 08:40, 1 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep References demonstrate notability of subject significantly.
Ginbopewz (
talk) 11:22, 2 March 2022 (UTC)reply
delete Per above. The mere fact that his campaigns can be documented isn't enough; it's routine coverage, and even if he is a perennial candidate (and he has a way to go, nothing like the notoriety that
Robin Ficker has amassed) he isn't known for that. He didn't even come close to winning the GOP nomination in 2014. If some paper decides he needs coverage in his own right, we can reconsider, but right now he is a paragon of obscurity.
Mangoe (
talk) 00:41, 5 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Delete He has not won and the coverage is routine. If he had won the 2014 primary we might have better coverage, in fact since the person who did win the 2014 primary won the general election, he might have won, but he was trounced in that primary, and we do not have actual coverage at a level to justify an article.
John Pack Lambert (
talk) 15:13, 7 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Keep. While he is a perennially unsuccessful political candidate (and thus fails
WP:NPOL), the coverage present in the article alone is enough to clearly pass
WP:NBASIC. If this coverage
were only in the coverage of one event there would be a policy-based reason to delete, but
no such policy-based reason exists for coverage in the context of multiple events.
WP:N requires two things for an article to merit an article: that
WP:GNG and/or an
WP:SNG be satisfied and that the article subject not be excluded under
WP:NOT. I see clear evidence that at least one
WP:SNG is satisfied (
WP:NBASIC) and that
WP:GNG is satisfied. The arguments of
WP:MILL are the only sort of arguments that would challenge this article subject as being excluded under
WP:NOT, but the essay does not enjoy community consensus. In this case, I think the essay does not have community consensus for a good reason—having one's career covered widely by independent reliable sources in the context of multiple events is what makes a person notable. In this case, there is no
policy-based deletion reason that is given that stands up to scrutiny, while the article subject clearly meets the base requirements of
WP:N. —
Mhawk10 (
talk) 19:05, 7 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: There is consensus that this is not a NPOL case. People disagree whether GNG is met instead. To help arrive at consensus, please cite specific sources and explain why they provide (or do not provide) GNG-level coverage. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 08:53, 8 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Comment. Since this was relisted, a list of sources that provide non-trivial coverage of Lollar that are available on newspapers.com include:
Cox, Erin (4 September 2013). "Lollar Joins GOP Race for Governor". The Baltimore Sun. p. 2.;
"Lollar addresses prosperity group". The Kent Island Bay Times. Chester, Maryland. 9 December 2009. p. 32.;
Moomah, Graham (26 Jan 2010). "Maryland Tea Party star hopes to unseat Hoyer". The Star-Democrat. Easton, Maryland. p. A5.
Campbell, Colin (14 May 2014). "Lollar Wants to Boost Md. Business". The Baltimore Sun. p. 2.
Smitherman, Laura (30 July 2009). "Charles County Republican Plans Run Against Hoyer". The Baltimore Sun. p. 9.
There is also coverage of this man in other news sources available online:
Since
significant coverageaddresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content and significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material, the above sources clearly show that the man has been significantly covered by independent, reliable sources in the context of multiple events. This is what
WP:GNG requires. Since he's clearly not a
WP:BLP1E, this article should be kept. —
Mhawk10 (
talk) 15:45, 8 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisting to evaluate posted sources Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
Qwaiiplayer (
talk) 12:23, 16 March 2022 (UTC)reply
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