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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) ミラ P 05:36, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
Charles Anselm Bolton
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Fails WP:ANYBIO. Sources only account for passing mentions and being a priest doesn't confer notability. CNMall41 ( talk) 19:42, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
- Delete nothing here rises to the level of notability. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 02:08, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 00:47, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple ( talk) 00:47, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
- Draft, perhaps? Have nothing at this time but feel perhaps more can by dug up. Hyperbolick ( talk) 16:00, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per above. – DarkGlow ( talk) 20:31, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
- Weak keep at most. The real problem is that this is a stub, emphasising his status as a Catholic Priest (which is NN), rather than as an academic, where he might be notable as a church historian. The reference to an Oxford master's degree is odd, as that university's masters are in fact first degrees followed by non-academic formalities. I would have expected his subject and college to be named (which they are not). Being "a" professor in America is again NN, but without a fuller list of his publications, it is impossible to judgen notability. Peterkingiron ( talk) 12:05, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Comment I can find two reviews of his book Church reform in 18th century Italy (in Archives de sociologie des religions and The Catholic Historical Review). There was an obituary in The Guardian
[1] which does not mention his conversion to protestantism, and in fact says that he retired to a Benedictine abbey. It gives his places of birth and death, but doesn't name the Oxford college he studied at (though it says he studied history and did a Dip.Ed.). Several American newspapers have advertisements or notices of him giving talks in 1963, describing him as a "former Catholic priest", "converted to Evangelical faith, 1962"
[2],
[3],
[4]. It's definitely the same person (educated at Oxford, Paris, Louvain, taught history, French, German and Russian at St Bede's, Manchester) - interesting that the Guardian obit does not mention a conversion, and says he taught in the US at a Benedictine school at St. Louis, while this article says he taught at Houghton College, New York (where, presumably, he was teaching when he wrote the article which is the only source). The Houghton College paper indeed welcomes him to the campus in 1963
[5]. Intriguing, but not so far enough to meet any notability guidelines, I don't think, though his article about Pandeism seems to be quoted a bit.
RebeccaGreen (
talk) 14:11, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
- Guardian seems to require subscription to see. Hyperbolick ( talk) 15:35, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: It seems like a delete so far, but since some sources were found, giving a relist to allow further discussion and research.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 ( talk) 20:53, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
Relisting comment: It seems like a delete so far, but since some sources were found, giving a relist to allow further discussion and research.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 ( talk) 20:53, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- delete not seeing a serious claim to notability here: priests who are authors are a shilling a dozen. Mangoe ( talk) 07:21, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
- keep, his Church Reform in 18th Century Italy: (The Synod of Pistoia, 1786) was included as part of an anthology. An article of his not mentioned so far was The Emperor Julian Against “Hissing Christians”. As for his impact, you can see a peaking in the term "pan-deism" in the five or so years after his pan-deism article: [ https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=%28Pan-deism%29&case_insensitive=on&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2C%28Pan%20-%20deism%29%3B%2Cc0#t1%3B%2C(Pan%20-%20deism)%3B%2Cc0 ] If he wasn't a priest and had written all that, he'd be notable.-- Epiphyllumlover ( talk) 04:38, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - while NN as a priest, it's clear he's
notable as an academic.
Bearian (
talk) 22:41, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
- @ Bearian: clearly notable as an academic but delete? Hyperbolick ( talk) 16:20, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
- Keep as notable as an academic as shown in the additional references in reliable sources identified in this discussion which show a clear pass of WP:GNG, imv Atlantic306 ( talk) 18:59, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. Satisfies GNG, AUTHOR and PROF. James500 ( talk) 01:36, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
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