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The result was delete. j⚛e decker talk 05:44, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
Celluloid Souls
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This appears to be a short-film by a non-notable Canadian film maker and does not pass WP:NOTABILITY and is intended to simply promote the individual. There is one external reference to the movie. The article mentions the film was screened at the graduation show of Emily Carr Institute of Art and Design and screened at two other film festivals. There are no critical reviews of the film and just one independent third party source. Neither the director, whose own Wikipedia article I have nominated for deletion per WP:NOTADVERTISING, appears notable, nor do any individuals involved with the film. Additionally, Zoran75 is the confirmed Wikipedia account of Mr. Dragelj by his own admission. The account created this article as well a number of other articles of his work, which have been deleted for simply promoting Mr. Dragelj and failing to meet WP: NOTABILITY. I eat BC Fish ( talk) 01:19, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. ceradon ( talk • contribs) 04:23, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
- Delete - Google search turns up nothing reliable ( IMDb does not establish notability). And, there is an obvious conflict of interest here. Nominator lays it out quite clearly. -- ceradon ( talk • contribs) 04:27, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
- Celluloid Souls is a short award winning film that played internationally at some most prominent film festivals (Toronto Worldwide Short Film Festival and Clermont-Ferrand Short Film Festival just to mention the few festivals) and garnered an international distribution from Los Angeles distribution. If you need more info please feel free to contact me. Thanks Zoran75 ( talk) 18:06, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
- @ Zoran75: Lots of films show at festivals, and simply screening is not that same as notable. What award did the film receive? What coverage, commentary, reviews, or analysis did it receive in independent reliable sources? Please read WP:NF and tell us how it meets those inclusion criteria? Schmidt, Michael Q. 22:08, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: Zoran, I will attempt to lay out to you as clearly as possible. WP:NOTABILITY is a key element of Wikipedia. You must be notable as deemed by significant third party sources, not because you believe you are. You have largely been the only editor who has edited the articles related to Celluloid Souls save for those that that have added minor changes such as categories. The film was released in 1997 and has 75 views on Youtube since you posted it in April 2007. This means you are averaging 10 views a year (two of which are my own in fact). This clearly does not qualify it as notable. Also, as a useful tip, use the 4 tildes (~) at the end of your comment rather than at the beginning, as you would in an "offline signature". I eat BC Fish ( talk) 18:48, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 00:25, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
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