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Bubonic plague cases are not unheard of and occur commonly because of zoonotic transmission in certain parts of the world, every year. As is common for certain diseases, outbreaks are notified and pronounced by local
public health authorities. No reliable sources are provided to establish this as a notable outbreak. The notability of this outbreak is entirely derived from media reporting associated with disease outbreaks in the time of COVID. It should be deleted.
Tom (LT) (
talk) 00:49, 7 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete because it's not notable on its own and likely not worth a mention in any of the other plague articles.
Velayinosu (
talk) 01:10, 7 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete This article made my brain vomit. Am I blaming its existence for an outbreak of
InedibleHulk Irrigation Syndrome? No, just my recent and unfortunate case.
InedibleHulk (
talk) 07:00, 7 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete Fails
WP:GNG. Absolute nonsense with an absurd title.
KidAd (
talk) 07:34, 7 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete Not notable and unfitting name.
mcornelius (
talk) 10:28, 7 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete per the multiple valid reasons already given, and calling attention to the fact that this is occurring in multiple instances (creation of non-notable scare-mongering virus plague articles with poor and primary sourcing), due to COVID fallout.
SandyGeorgia (
Talk) 13:19, 7 July 2020 (UTC)reply
How many others are out there? Are they being nominated for deletion? I want to do my part to flatten the curve!
InedibleHulk (
talk) 14:40, 7 July 2020 (UTC)reply
I feel like it would be borderline canvassing to mention them here. You are welcome to join
WP:MED.
SandyGeorgia (
Talk) 15:10, 7 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete. As the cited Guardian reference and
this article by the BBC state, these isolated incidents are not uncommon and don't tend to become outbreaks. (If I end up being wrong about this and the herdsman turns out to be patient zero in the next pandemic, I want Eddie Redmayne to play me in the disaster movie.)
~dom Kaos~ (
talk) 18:00, 7 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Snow Close as Delete Now: i have no idea if this was created as a joke, or as a good faith reaction to the little clickbait media frenzy, but we don't need to discuss its merits any further.--Milowent • hasspoken 17:24, 8 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep/merge Whatever is happening on the ground, the news is certainly spreading fast, being covered by the
BBC;
NYT;
Imperial College; &c. If it's not a big deal then it is better to retain the topic and direct readers to appropriate detailed information rather than have them find that the page has been deleted so they start worrying about a cover-up and fill in the blanks themselves. See the
Streisand effect.
Andrew🐉(
talk) 19:01, 9 July 2020 (UTC)reply
But
WP:NOT news and not a directory, and
WP:MEDRS for sourcing on biomedical health content (not laypress). We don't report every case of every disease everywhere in the world. It got news because of COVID fallout. Those who are "worried" can see that they need not worry in the very sources you cite.
SandyGeorgia (
Talk) 19:24, 9 July 2020 (UTC)reply
The worried are not going to see anything here if you just suppress the information. So then they may get their
information from Facebook instead? My view is that we should cover the information in an appropriate way, as has been done for the
1994 plague in India and
21st century Madagascar plague outbreaks. If this new outbreak is minor and low risk, then we just say so. Why is this so hard?
Andrew🐉(
talk) 20:59, 9 July 2020 (UTC)reply
You make a good point about Facebook, but not our job (I don’t feel any better about people getting medical information from Wikipedia than I do about same from Facebook, we are equally likely to misreport) ... the other outbreak articles you link were actually outbreaks. This is one person, news hype. This case is not hard; having COVID hysteria spread NOTNEWS articles about every individual instance of every condition that gets publicity is the concern. We could add mentionmof this to a bubonic plague article, but for one case?
SandyGeorgia (
Talk) 21:36, 9 July 2020 (UTC)reply
DeleteRun-of the-mill incident as
Bubonic plague#Epidemiology makes clear there are cases occurring regularly in the US and other countries that pass without widespread news coverage. We must not give this isolated case undue weight.----
Pontificalibus 06:44, 10 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete as above. Cases of the Bubonic plague occur regularly, and a report of a single individual contracting it is a clear violation of
WP:NOTNEWS. It is also extremely doubtful that this case is or will be the only case this year, so the idea that this one case is referred to as "The Bubonic Plague of 2020", which is the whole basis on which this article was created, is absurd to the point of being completely nonsensical.
Rorshacma (
talk) 15:47, 10 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep for know We follow the RS and there is
plenty. CNN, NYT etc.
Lightburst (
talk) 18:39, 13 July 2020 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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