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WP:ACTOR and
WP:GNG. Article has been a poorly-sourced stub for nearly twelve years with any significant coverage coming after his death. Sure, he was in the waterfall sequence in The Mission and taught Harrison Ford how to use a bullwhip, but such trivia isn't enough to sustain an article.
sixtynine• whaddya want? • 02:46, 16 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete The only sources I can find on him other than this article, IMDb, and the Hollywood Stuntmen Hall of Fame (where he's just a name on a list) are obituaries on him (RIP, by the way). -
John M Wolfson (
talk) 03:46, 16 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Weak keep. On
WP:GNG, while the primary coverage found in more recent (online) news sources all largely relate to coverage of the subject's death, I have found at least a handful of coverage in older (offline/archived) news sources. Including
this piece in a (granted less than 'paper of record') news source from 1999. Which seems to suggest that the subject had his own (one-off?) national broadcast TV special. Or
this piece in a (granted 'glossy magazine' rather than 'scholarly journal') print piece from 2013. Given that many of the subject's activities were in the 1960s and 1970s, and hence predate the internet, it is perhaps unsurprising that these are not "Google-able". And there could well be more coverage in older print pieces. (FWIW, as the subject's name is pretty distinctive, I did a quick search in the Irish news archives, and they returned about a dozen mentions in digitised news articles dating from 1972 to 1995). On
WP:NACTOR, while GNG and SIGCOV would likely need to be considered also, there would seem to be sufficient evidence that the subject has had "significant roles in multiple notable films" and relatively " prolific [..] contributions to a field of entertainment". While we're perhaps not swimming in sources to the extent that is "cut and dried", I would personally (if only just slightly) lean towards a cautious 'keep'....
Guliolopez (
talk) 22:58, 16 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep as per the additional reliable sources identified above so that the coverage is not all post- death, although an obituary in The Guardian national newspaper is certainly a sign of notability, thanks
Atlantic306 (
talk) 15:44, 21 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:49, 23 April 2019 (UTC)reply
keep per Gulio. I dont think subject passes NACTOR, but he definitely passes GNG for his time period. —usernamekiran
(talk) 05:35, 23 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep Not too familiar with the special guidelines, but clearly has sigcov for GNG. When someone is in the "Hall of Fame" for his profession and receives lengthy obits in major newspapers, this is a strong signal they are notable. --
GreenC 13:04, 23 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Weak keep - Not the actor with the most media coverage, but does seem to have sufficient reliable sources available to meet the general notability criteria and to some extent
WP:NACTOR.
Spyder212 (
talk) 22:52, 23 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep thanks to sourcing during this discussion.
E.M.Gregory (
talk) 01:17, 30 April 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep per Guliolopez.
DreamFocus 01:39, 30 April 2019 (UTC)reply
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