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The result was no consensus. Legoktm ( talk) 04:25, 6 December 2022 (UTC) reply

Brigette Peterson

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WP:BLP of a mayor, not adequately sourced as passing WP:NPOL #2. While her city is large and significant enough that a mayor would get to keep an article that was substantive and well-sourced, mayors don't get an automatic notability freebie just for existing per se -- the notability bar for a mayor is not passed by writing "Brigette Peterson is a mayor who exists, the end", it's passed by writing and sourcing a substantive article about the political significance of her mayoralty: specific things she did in the mayor's chair, specific projects she spearheaded, specific effects her mayoralty had on the development of the city, and on and so forth.
So I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody with a lot more knowledge about Arizona politics than I've got can improve it to the necessary standard -- but she isn't automatically entitled to have an article just because she exists, if what's already here now is all the effort anybody can actually be bothered to put into it. Bearcat ( talk) 13:49, 14 November 2022 (UTC) reply

To be fair, Gilbert AZ is a sizable city, not a town — but even mayors of cities, even very big cities, still have to be shown to pass WP:NPOL #2 on substance and sourcing, and still aren't given "inherent" notability freebies for articles that are this minimalistically written and sourced. Bearcat ( talk) 18:11, 19 November 2022 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Gilbert has a population of 260,000, larger than many cities as noted by nom. Notability is based on coverage. There is a minor mention in A Tennessee newspaper and many more in other states which shows some non-local coverage. More sigcov includes another source with statewide coverage of the First Amendment issue, and this bio in a Boston-area newspaper. There is lots of statewide coverage in The Arizona Republic such as this. I think this is just barely enough to establish notability and enough to develop an acceptable article. MB 14:31, 15 November 2022 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 14:27, 21 November 2022 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 17:25, 28 November 2022 (UTC) reply

  • Keep Gilbert is a sizeable town, it is in fact the biggest "town" in the United States in regards to population. Bbraxtonlee ( talk) 19:18, 28 November 2022 (UTC) reply
The size of Gilbert has nothing to do with Wikipedia's inclusion criteria for mayors. It's whether the mayor can be shown to get over WP:GNG on her sourceability or not that determines whether a mayor is notable or not, and the population of the place she was mayor of has nothing to do with anything. Bearcat ( talk) 21:00, 3 December 2022 (UTC) reply
You are correct, Bearcat, but frequently in AFD discussions about mayors or lists of mayors, the size of the town or city gets mentioned as a factor in determining significance. Liz Read! Talk! 00:34, 4 December 2022 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.