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The result was speedy keep. Nominator has withdrawn and no delete votes remain. Closing this as an uninvolved editor. (non-admin closure) Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 17:27, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
Bombay to Goa (2007 film)
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Non notable film, appears to fail
WP:NFILM as nothing of substance was found in a
WP:BEFORE that could help support notability.
No critic reviews found. Zero critic reviews at Rotten Tomatoes. Found a few blog reviews, but those don't count toward notability.
PROD was removed with statement "Please...", with the addition of box office results as the added citation, which, again, just proves the film was released, not that it is notable.
DonaldD23
talk to me 13:27, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
WITHDRAWN due to newly added citations.
DonaldD23
talk to me 11:16, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. DonaldD23 talk to me 13:27, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. DonaldD23 talk to me 13:27, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
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Donaldd23, I don't get the rush to delete an article when you are fully aware I'll do my best to improve it, as I always do with the many unjustified nominations you guys love submitting for deletion here. Most of what you said is, with all due respect, incorrect. Zero reviews? It appears to be untrue. Consider withdrawing the nomination as I'm working on it and there are plenty of sources, so your WP:BEFORE was probably not made correctly.
Shahid •
Talk2me 13:42, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- Please also note,
Rotten Tomatoes is an American review-aggregation website. The English Wikipedia is not American, and its standards of notability should not depend on or be determined upon a subject's visibility in American media. Indian subjects are no less notable by virture of their coverage in the Indian press. Thanks,
Shahid •
Talk2me 13:55, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- If there are RELIABLE CRITIC reviews, then please add them. According to
Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force, the review from Radiosargam that you added does not count as it is a BLOG. I was just pointing out that I checked Rotten Tomatoes and found nothing there. It isn't the only place I checked. Regardless of whether the film is English or not, it must still pass the requirements of
WP:NFILM...there are no caveats that say, "the film can fail now because an editor is doing their best to improve it". If you can find RELIABLE sources (and I never said they have to be AMERICAN...that is YOUR word), then add them and if they make the film pass
WP:NFILM, then other editors will support keeping this article. But, until then, it appears to fail, and Wikipedia is not a place for articles that FAIL notability requirements. If the article wasn't ready for publication then it should be in DRAFT until it passes.
DonaldD23
talk to me 14:52, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- In addition, your comment "I don't get the rush to delete an article" is incorrect. The article was created in 2007 and it has had 14 years to have citations added to pass
WP:NFILM. If 14 years is rushing to delete, then how many years must we wait to question an article's notability?
DonaldD23
talk to me 15:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- My comment refers to the period of time between my removal of the PROD template and your submission of this AFD, which is just a few minutes. So far everytime I objected to the deletion of an article I took the time to improve the article in question (unless the nomination is totally uncalled for to begin with or someone else does the job) right away, and this case was no exception, as you see. Shahid • Talk2me 15:52, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- In addition, your comment "I don't get the rush to delete an article" is incorrect. The article was created in 2007 and it has had 14 years to have citations added to pass
WP:NFILM. If 14 years is rushing to delete, then how many years must we wait to question an article's notability?
DonaldD23
talk to me 15:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- If there are RELIABLE CRITIC reviews, then please add them. According to
Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force, the review from Radiosargam that you added does not count as it is a BLOG. I was just pointing out that I checked Rotten Tomatoes and found nothing there. It isn't the only place I checked. Regardless of whether the film is English or not, it must still pass the requirements of
WP:NFILM...there are no caveats that say, "the film can fail now because an editor is doing their best to improve it". If you can find RELIABLE sources (and I never said they have to be AMERICAN...that is YOUR word), then add them and if they make the film pass
WP:NFILM, then other editors will support keeping this article. But, until then, it appears to fail, and Wikipedia is not a place for articles that FAIL notability requirements. If the article wasn't ready for publication then it should be in DRAFT until it passes.
DonaldD23
talk to me 14:52, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- Please also note,
Rotten Tomatoes is an American review-aggregation website. The English Wikipedia is not American, and its standards of notability should not depend on or be determined upon a subject's visibility in American media. Indian subjects are no less notable by virture of their coverage in the Indian press. Thanks,
Shahid •
Talk2me 13:55, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep - several reviews added, production details as well, notability established. Shahid • Talk2me 15:52, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per the film reviews added by Shshshsh. Meets WP:NFILM. -- Ab207 ( talk) 17:27, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep: now meets WP:NFILM -- DaxServer ( talk) 17:49, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- Withdrawn
DonaldD23
talk to me 22:39, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
- @
Donaldd23 Can you move your withdrawn comment to the top and add a brief explanation of why, as per
WP:WDAFD. You can then close the discussion discussion yourself as
Wikipedia:Speedy keep,
or I could do that. Update: I can't do that as I offered my opinion in the AfD per WP:NACD -- DaxServer ( talk) 12:11, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
- @
Donaldd23 Can you move your withdrawn comment to the top and add a brief explanation of why, as per
WP:WDAFD. You can then close the discussion discussion yourself as
Wikipedia:Speedy keep,
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